Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan

The count of 73 CCIE is for Pakistan, not for India. India has 666 CCIEs in
a population of 1.07 billion. i like your concept and i believe a few more
including me would like to work with you if you start this in Pakistan.

On 8/27/09, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> By request...
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> Since I've had the good fortune to speak to the two people who know whether
> anyone can cheat on the CCIE, what is considered cheating and conversely
> what is not (hint: integrity and identification is the key), and finally
> how
> it all kinda adds up in the longs run...
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> If you only got 73 CCIE's in one country the size of India... and can't
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> suitable employment as a CCIE, not to be mean... but I have to ask...
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> 1. What does your resume look like?
> 2. What does your experience look like.
> 3. Cisco is probably not worried about 73 CCIE's taking the CCIE and 3
> score
> and a little more devalueing the industry... Nope.
> 4. Do you get the interview at all?
> 5. Do you know Cisco has TAC in India and I'm sure they are hiring
> well-qualified job applicants?
> 6. Consulting has got to pay... I know sub-CCIE's in the USA doing remote
> work in India - a few actually... and if they are employed and earning USA
> Dollars.... at a rate that is attractive to partners (say $100-200+ per
> hour) then I have a hard time believing that 73 CCIE's have saturated a
> market of millions...
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> 7. If you guys are truly having this much trouble - lemme know... maybe I
> can start a company in India with these CCIE's and service clients anywhere
> else in the USA... Promise you - I can market you and pay you prevailing
> wage or better for part-time work or full-time project work...
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> By the way - this has all the makings of a genuine offer... for CCIE's
> mostly anywhere... FYI - I was able to sell my MCSE for $125 per hour on a
> factor of 3... per hour. I'm sure I can manuever a CCIE a few ways to
> Sunday and I love the "Sun Does Not Set On My CCIE's Concept". In short, I
> should be able to get you paid and keep you paid... even if we gotta go
> ghetto...
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> If anyone thinks earning a CCIE does not increase one's know-how in this
> world that I live and work in... we need to talk especially if a CCIE has
> doubts... maybe someone's suffering from premature Alzheimer's... We can
> fix that.
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> No track offers more recognition or deserves it more than the CCIE. Simple
> as that... and that's about the sum of it...
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> Not sure how to say more about it.
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> Tell ya what at any company where there is a CCIE, where does the buck
> stop?
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> Case closed.
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> Yes, CIO's, Prinicpals, Director's andd others earn more than a CCIE does
> typically or at least the same...
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> Hey... most won't have a certification at all. Some may not even have a
> degree... It's just a cookie and it crumbles...
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> I've been in the industry for better than a decade and a half in the
> private
> industry not counting military time and whatever I did there and I cannot
> explain it either.
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> Sure CISSP's and PMP's get paid if they get REALLY LUCKY...
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> CCIE's get paid on a bad day with the measles or the mumps... and a sawed
> off foot.... to ummm... boot.
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> Sure there are about thousands of CCIE's.... so don't migrate to China....
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> However in the USA, we are starving for CCIE's and we lost one from the
> monthly totals last month... until H* U* gets time to play catch up. Then
> we break even again...
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> But hey 4000-5000+ CCIE's only go so far.
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> Let's face it most work for Cisco and how many are trainers?
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> Maybe a third or a fourth actually work for employers... and some few
> actually perform true consulting...
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> On attaining a second or even third or more CCIE...
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> The more I think of this the more I think it is pointless.
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> People recognize the CCIE.... and they don't necessarily recognize the
> specialization (outside of partners).
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> What was the point?
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> Yes get trained and yes get the skills and even yes build a lab to get your
> stuff working...
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> Wasting valuable time that could be spent earning $$$... no point to it.
> Do you want to be a consumer all your life or a producer?
>
> What was the point again?
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> Again, you guys got my email - if you need to earn dome ducks... let me
> know...
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> Juniper does not excite me so much...
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> But Juniper hires.... CCIE's.
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> Go figure?
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> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Divin Mathew John <divinjohn_at_gmail.com
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> > "Frankly speaking CCIE is not a dream certification now. It is easy to
> > achieve using different materials available on web sites (everybody know
> > about it)."
> > But the Question still remains.. After all the shortcuts to
> > certification..is the certificate really worth it? Does it add value to
> your
> > current know-how!
> >
> > Ponder over it for sometime.!
> >
> > I hope the controversy-NINJA Darby drops in !
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