Re: CCIE Amnesty?

i think for cisco partners are more useful than CCIEs so lowest in food
chain consumed more.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:06 PM, NN Kumar <nagendra.cisco_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Darby,
>
> Your point is right when a CCIE is associating his ID with a partner whom
> with he is not working. I agree, the candidate deserves the punishment of
> being stripped with his certificates.
>
> But my concern is, If a partner goes for audit in some country showing few
> CCIEs are associated in that country where in real, those CCIEs neither
> have
> work permit for those country nor living in that country, but working as
> part of the company in different country. How will the candiate knows that
> his ID is misused.?.
>
> Regards,
> Nag
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I am still not sure whether their is any "law" or "legal" repurcussion.
> >
> > I candidate signs an agreement saying how he or whe will use the
> > certifciation within specifications as specified by Cisco.
> >
> > If the candidate, the ONLY person who can assign his/her own number to a
> > partner, does so... then the partner is not at fault because the CCIE was
> an
> > idiot.
> >
> > The CCIE when caught up with either in the current year or in later years
> > as deemed appropriate by Cisco will be stripped of a CCIE and probably
> for
> > life.
> >
> > The CCIE and not the parter, has made a conscious decision to DEVALUE the
> > CCIE progam. It is the CCIE who will always suffer the AXE, not the
> > partner.
> >
> > The partner will have to find another CCIE else lose the partnership.
> >
> > The CCIE will have to find another certification program to defraud.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:33 AM, NN Kumar <nagendra.cisco_at_gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I think it is not fair to strip an individual's certificates when the
> >> employer is trying to cheat Cisco. Normally, the company will not let
> know
> >> the individual where his certificate is being associated. In such case,
> how
> >> would any one get to know there is something illegal association
> happening
> >> with his certificate?.
> >>
> >> Is there any cisco mail list where we can confirm if this is legal or
> >> not?.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think it is not so much a legal issue.
> >>>
> >>> Cisco would probably just strip the person's certifications.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Cisco League <
> >>> ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > What if you are asked to attach your CCO to a country where you are
> not
> >>> > employed.
> >>> > Example: You work for a company having offices in countries A,B and
> C.
> >>> The
> >>> > company has a partner status in country A and B but not C. You are
> >>> employed
> >>> > in country A but asked to attach your CCO to country C thus helping
> the
> >>> > company to get partner status in country C. Now where does the
> company
> >>> and
> >>> > the candidate stand with respect to legal aspect and possible
> >>> repercussions
> >>> > to the candidate if this comes to notice of Cisco.
> >>> > To my understanding you should be employed in the country where your
> >>> CCIE
> >>> > numbers is being used to gain partner status.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com
> >
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Considering there is a process to become a partner - I don't think
> it
> >>> is
> >>> > > easy to become registered with a Partner without one's own notice.
> >>> > Unless
> >>> > > they have all your usernames, passwords, CSCO Number/Password, etc.
> >>> >
> >>> >
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