Re: OT: Cisco Certified Architect

The fee is people-oriented and the amount of time involved with each
person (before and after the actual board meeting/roasting).

I dunno, I almost feel better about that then paying $350 for the CCIE
written which is no different from a processing standpoint than the $125
na/np/whatever tests.

https://cisco.hosted.jivesoftware.com/docs/DOC-5483 -- I got a few of
those questions answered while at Networkers.

*Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,

JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.

JNCI-M, JNCI-ER

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Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com wrote:
> Excuse me for stating the obvious but how can one cert possibly cost that
> much? Is this the fee for an attempt at the test? Is this the total cost
> of training an architecht? This is severely lacking in info. Also, can
> you really certify an architecht? I mean constructing a network to meet
> some requirements in a contrived lab scenario is a far cry from designing
> a living brething, logical, sane, revenue generating/preserving network.
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> Re: OT: Cisco Certified Architect
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> Dane Newman
> to:
> Gary Duncanson
> 07/21/09 04:03 PM
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> Cc:
> Travis Niedens, "<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>"
> Please respond to Dane Newman
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> Well see how well the Microsoft arcitect certs did weill be my
> prediction for any cert that costs 15k
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> Dane
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> On Jul 21, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com
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>> I agree with some of this. Have Cisco done their homework on using
>> the Architect moniker? I know 'real' engineers get cross about this
>> sort of thing vis-a-vis MCSE and CNE.
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>> All that said, I work with many IT professionals with the
>> 'Architect' moniker.
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>> It is a Cisco centric thing this I imagine. Funny thing is field
>> environments are mixed, legacy exists and there are sometimes
>> *better* choices than Cisco boxes for lots of reasons. So it's a
>> Cisco Architect rather than a Network Architect qualification. On
>> that note, many CCIE's are unfamilar with CSS (aka Arrowpoint)
>> configuration. I realise this is not an 'Architect' level diversion
>> but loadbalancing happens and app developers with increasing disdain
>> for TCP seem to keep on blaiming networks when their apps fall
>> over. Hopefully it's covered.
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>> Regards
>> Gary
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>>> For me -- 15k for a certification is a killer. Cisco and large
>>> partners more
>>> than likely will be the only ones paying for people to take the test.
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>>> If you take a look at the cost, it is the most costly certification
>>> - at least
>>> that I am aware of. For the cost of this ALONE, without any study
>>> materials
>>> or fancy hardware or travel/lodging, I can pretty much pay for my
>>> Masters in
>>> Information Assurance and Security at Capella University. Keep in
>>> mind, with
>>> a Masters, I can jump to any part of IT and usually higher
>>> positions than you
>>> see on dice / monster for a CCIE / CCDE. Another item to keep in
>>> mind is that
>>> most networks are not 100% Cisco. I would assume the caliber of
>>> person who
>>> "should" get through the CCA will be able to deal with that and in
>>> fact it
>>> would be crazy for Cisco not to include this in the CCA process.
>>> My hope is
>>> that this truly is a Architect test vs. what people have been
>>> calling the CCDE
>>> - the Russ White design test.
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