Re: CCIE Amnesty?

Yep, fully agree here. It's like policing the drug addict, rather than the
drug dealer. In these examples the dealers happen to be making cisco a ton
of money so get a slap on the wrist, and are made to do things
legitimately!! Wow, such a punishment, doing things legit :D Meanwhile, a
cert holder can be stripped of his livelyhood. They really need to put that
in the CCIE's terms of use. The CCIE should not have to understand the
partners reqs towards partnership, as those are business objectives of the
partner and a bit out of the scope of the CCIE's personal terms of use.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:12 AM, <sheherezada_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Few thoughts about this:
>
> 1) I don't remember a policy that I signed as CCIE individual that
> specifically forbids the 'renting' practice. It is the partner policy
> that forbids the practice, so CCIEs might be unaware of it. Please
> show me where it is posted.
> 2) Partners do not get punished for violating the policy. I know at
> least one example. OK, that partner was founded by a proeminent
> distributor...
>
> Anyway, good to know.
>
> Mihai
>
> On Tuesday, July 21, 2009, Nickelby Thane <nickelby.thane_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Larry beat me to posting this ;-).
> >
> > It's a pity though those two lose their CCIEs for renting them to a
> company
> > that actually needs them. I would have that company blacklisted as a
> Cisco
> > sales channel partner (be it gold, silver, etc.). Reason? If every
> company
> > can do this "Rent-A-Cert" kind of thing, the CCIE market would suffer. A
> > company does not need to have a CCIE on its payroll hence saving it money
> > from an employment standpoint but instead gain a gold, silver, etc status
> > from Cisco. The CCIE instead gets a fraction of what he/she is supposed
> to
> > be paid for this.
> >
> > Like Eman mentioned, these CCIEs originally 'rented' out their certs
> since
> > their current company does not need CCIEs. But if that's the case, why
> don't
> > these guys find an employer that does? I believe they would earn much
> better
> > utilizing their CCIEs rather than renting them out. Perhaps the economy
> in
> > their country is not encouraging or perhaps they have other reasons but
> > whatever that reason is, I would strongly suggest you guys/girls to check
> > with Eman if you're not sure about how to go around issues like this.
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards,
> > Nickelby Thane
> > Personal Blog : http://nthane.blogspot.com
> > CCIE Blog : http://cciecisco.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Apparently it is no longer safe to assume one can rent one's
> certifications
> >> without repurcussion.
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