Re: CCIE Amnesty?

how do you know if your ccie number has been associated with a company? Can
a company associate your number with them with you not even knowing about
it?

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:30 AM, darth router <darklordrouter_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Yep, fully agree here. It's like policing the drug addict, rather than the
> drug dealer. In these examples the dealers happen to be making cisco a ton
> of money so get a slap on the wrist, and are made to do things
> legitimately!! Wow, such a punishment, doing things legit :D Meanwhile, a
> cert holder can be stripped of his livelyhood. They really need to put that
> in the CCIE's terms of use. The CCIE should not have to understand the
> partners reqs towards partnership, as those are business objectives of the
> partner and a bit out of the scope of the CCIE's personal terms of use.
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:12 AM, <sheherezada_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Few thoughts about this:
> >
> > 1) I don't remember a policy that I signed as CCIE individual that
> > specifically forbids the 'renting' practice. It is the partner policy
> > that forbids the practice, so CCIEs might be unaware of it. Please
> > show me where it is posted.
> > 2) Partners do not get punished for violating the policy. I know at
> > least one example. OK, that partner was founded by a proeminent
> > distributor...
> >
> > Anyway, good to know.
> >
> > Mihai
> >
> > On Tuesday, July 21, 2009, Nickelby Thane <nickelby.thane_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Larry beat me to posting this ;-).
> > >
> > > It's a pity though those two lose their CCIEs for renting them to a
> > company
> > > that actually needs them. I would have that company blacklisted as a
> > Cisco
> > > sales channel partner (be it gold, silver, etc.). Reason? If every
> > company
> > > can do this "Rent-A-Cert" kind of thing, the CCIE market would suffer.
> A
> > > company does not need to have a CCIE on its payroll hence saving it
> money
> > > from an employment standpoint but instead gain a gold, silver, etc
> status
> > > from Cisco. The CCIE instead gets a fraction of what he/she is supposed
> > to
> > > be paid for this.
> > >
> > > Like Eman mentioned, these CCIEs originally 'rented' out their certs
> > since
> > > their current company does not need CCIEs. But if that's the case, why
> > don't
> > > these guys find an employer that does? I believe they would earn much
> > better
> > > utilizing their CCIEs rather than renting them out. Perhaps the economy
> > in
> > > their country is not encouraging or perhaps they have other reasons but
> > > whatever that reason is, I would strongly suggest you guys/girls to
> check
> > > with Eman if you're not sure about how to go around issues like this.
> > >
> > >
> > > Warmest regards,
> > > Nickelby Thane
> > > Personal Blog : http://nthane.blogspot.com
> > > CCIE Blog : http://cciecisco.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Apparently it is no longer safe to assume one can rent one's
> > certifications
> > >> without repurcussion.
> > >>
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