Re: CCIE Amnesty?

Theorhetically yes. Although as it's part of your CCO account, the
question would be whether you have partner access or not and whether you
expected that or not?

I would think there'd be telltale signs that you have more access than
you thought.. But good question. I should probably go look at my
account. :)

*Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,

JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.

CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER

swm_at_emanon.com

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Power corrupts.

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Jonny English wrote:
> how do you know if your ccie number has been associated with a company? Can
> a company associate your number with them with you not even knowing about
> it?
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:30 AM, darth router <darklordrouter_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>> Yep, fully agree here. It's like policing the drug addict, rather than the
>> drug dealer. In these examples the dealers happen to be making cisco a ton
>> of money so get a slap on the wrist, and are made to do things
>> legitimately!! Wow, such a punishment, doing things legit :D Meanwhile, a
>> cert holder can be stripped of his livelyhood. They really need to put that
>> in the CCIE's terms of use. The CCIE should not have to understand the
>> partners reqs towards partnership, as those are business objectives of the
>> partner and a bit out of the scope of the CCIE's personal terms of use.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:12 AM, <sheherezada_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Few thoughts about this:
>>>
>>> 1) I don't remember a policy that I signed as CCIE individual that
>>> specifically forbids the 'renting' practice. It is the partner policy
>>> that forbids the practice, so CCIEs might be unaware of it. Please
>>> show me where it is posted.
>>> 2) Partners do not get punished for violating the policy. I know at
>>> least one example. OK, that partner was founded by a proeminent
>>> distributor...
>>>
>>> Anyway, good to know.
>>>
>>> Mihai
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 21, 2009, Nickelby Thane <nickelby.thane_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Larry beat me to posting this ;-).
>>>>
>>>> It's a pity though those two lose their CCIEs for renting them to a
>>>>
>>> company
>>>
>>>> that actually needs them. I would have that company blacklisted as a
>>>>
>>> Cisco
>>>
>>>> sales channel partner (be it gold, silver, etc.). Reason? If every
>>>>
>>> company
>>>
>>>> can do this "Rent-A-Cert" kind of thing, the CCIE market would suffer.
>>>>
>> A
>>
>>>> company does not need to have a CCIE on its payroll hence saving it
>>>>
>> money
>>
>>>> from an employment standpoint but instead gain a gold, silver, etc
>>>>
>> status
>>
>>>> from Cisco. The CCIE instead gets a fraction of what he/she is supposed
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> be paid for this.
>>>>
>>>> Like Eman mentioned, these CCIEs originally 'rented' out their certs
>>>>
>>> since
>>>
>>>> their current company does not need CCIEs. But if that's the case, why
>>>>
>>> don't
>>>
>>>> these guys find an employer that does? I believe they would earn much
>>>>
>>> better
>>>
>>>> utilizing their CCIEs rather than renting them out. Perhaps the economy
>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>> their country is not encouraging or perhaps they have other reasons but
>>>> whatever that reason is, I would strongly suggest you guys/girls to
>>>>
>> check
>>
>>>> with Eman if you're not sure about how to go around issues like this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warmest regards,
>>>> Nickelby Thane
>>>> Personal Blog : http://nthane.blogspot.com
>>>> CCIE Blog : http://cciecisco.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Apparently it is no longer safe to assume one can rent one's
>>>>>
>>> certifications
>>>
>>>>> without repurcussion.
>>>>>
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