Re: CCIE Amnesty?

Johnny:
If a partner is using your number and you are logged into CCO with the
account associated then you should something like this after you log in.

http://cisco.com/en/US/*partner/* <http://cisco.com/en/US/partner/>

If you see this and you are not affiliated with a partner then I'd
investigate it.

Thanks
Larry Hadrava
CCIE #12203 CCNP
Sr. Support Engineer  IPexpert, Inc.
URL: http://www.IPexpert.com

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Jonny English
<redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> how do you know if your ccie number has been associated with a company? Can
> a company associate your number with them with you not even knowing about
> it?
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:30 AM, darth router <darklordrouter_at_gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Yep, fully agree here. It's like policing the drug addict, rather than
> the
> > drug dealer. In these examples the dealers happen to be making cisco a
> ton
> > of money so get a slap on the wrist, and are made to do things
> > legitimately!! Wow, such a punishment, doing things legit :D Meanwhile, a
> > cert holder can be stripped of his livelyhood. They really need to put
> that
> > in the CCIE's terms of use. The CCIE should not have to understand the
> > partners reqs towards partnership, as those are business objectives of
> the
> > partner and a bit out of the scope of the CCIE's personal terms of use.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:12 AM, <sheherezada_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Few thoughts about this:
> > >
> > > 1) I don't remember a policy that I signed as CCIE individual that
> > > specifically forbids the 'renting' practice. It is the partner policy
> > > that forbids the practice, so CCIEs might be unaware of it. Please
> > > show me where it is posted.
> > > 2) Partners do not get punished for violating the policy. I know at
> > > least one example. OK, that partner was founded by a proeminent
> > > distributor...
> > >
> > > Anyway, good to know.
> > >
> > > Mihai
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, July 21, 2009, Nickelby Thane <nickelby.thane_at_gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Larry beat me to posting this ;-).
> > > >
> > > > It's a pity though those two lose their CCIEs for renting them to a
> > > company
> > > > that actually needs them. I would have that company blacklisted as a
> > > Cisco
> > > > sales channel partner (be it gold, silver, etc.). Reason? If every
> > > company
> > > > can do this "Rent-A-Cert" kind of thing, the CCIE market would
> suffer.
> > A
> > > > company does not need to have a CCIE on its payroll hence saving it
> > money
> > > > from an employment standpoint but instead gain a gold, silver, etc
> > status
> > > > from Cisco. The CCIE instead gets a fraction of what he/she is
> supposed
> > > to
> > > > be paid for this.
> > > >
> > > > Like Eman mentioned, these CCIEs originally 'rented' out their certs
> > > since
> > > > their current company does not need CCIEs. But if that's the case,
> why
> > > don't
> > > > these guys find an employer that does? I believe they would earn much
> > > better
> > > > utilizing their CCIEs rather than renting them out. Perhaps the
> economy
> > > in
> > > > their country is not encouraging or perhaps they have other reasons
> but
> > > > whatever that reason is, I would strongly suggest you guys/girls to
> > check
> > > > with Eman if you're not sure about how to go around issues like this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Warmest regards,
> > > > Nickelby Thane
> > > > Personal Blog : http://nthane.blogspot.com
> > > > CCIE Blog : http://cciecisco.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Apparently it is no longer safe to assume one can rent one's
> > > certifications
> > > >> without repurcussion.
> > > >>
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