Re: New Blueprint - Can Anyone Think of a Need for the "E"

My personal hope is that if Cisco wants to certify people as experts
in high-end platforms, they do it as some type of specialization.
Every now and then I'm fortunate enough to work in an all-Cisco shop,
but that's increasingly rare. What I love about the CCIE cert is that
it's technology oriented vs. product oriented and most people in the
industry (at least the technical ones) are aware of that. I'm working
with a new client right now where the main internal network architect
is a former SE from a major Cisco competitor. I don't think I appear
to him as Cisco-biased just because I hold the CCIE certification.
Were the focus of the cert to shift from OSPF, BGP, etc to 6509s and
Nexus platforms, I think people would legitimately be able to point at
a CCIE and say "you're only recommending that expensive Cisco platform
because it's what you're certified in." That would be a bad day for
the program indeed...

On May 5, 2009, at 11:37 , Travis Niedens wrote:

> I've mentioned a few times on here that the CCIE R/S lab environment
> does
> not necessarily reflect the hardware profile that many companies have
> deployed; much of the 65xx chassis / line cards come with their own
> caveats
> and new features as you mention (VSS, MEC, etc.). Additionally,
> Cisco is
> pushing for a migration to Nexus switches for the Data Center and
> that runs
> a completely different codebase. Even though this all is discussed
> in jest,
> I seriously wonder how long it will be before a CCIE level test is
> created
> using 65xx / Nexus platforms. Perhaps with the Data Center 3.0 idea
> they
> also should consider a CCIE DC Track (heck, there's more $$$ in that
> than
> wireless).
>
> Travis
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of Brad
> Ellis
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:28 PM
> To: Scott Morris; Tyson Scott
> Cc: Scott M Vermillion; Cisco certification
> Subject: RE: New Blueprint - Can Anyone Think of a Need for the "E"
> Series
> 3560?
>
> I think if it was a sales thing, they'd add some Cat6500-VSS 1440s or
> Nexus7000s to the lab exam. (No, don't even say CSR-1!) Oh man, I
> hope
> I didn't give "them" any ideas! That would be a pretty smart move by
> Cisco. I could see the year-end earnings go through the roof. Stock
> price would follow! :)
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Of
> Scott Morris
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:15 PM
> To: Tyson Scott
> Cc: 'Scott M Vermillion'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: Re: New Blueprint - Can Anyone Think of a Need for the "E"
> Series 3560?
>
> I agree. Unless it's a sales thing. We're coming up on quarter-end,
> aren't we? Or year-end? :)
>
> It'll make some sales reps really happy if we all rush out to buy
> 3560E's. But I hardly think it's necessary!
>
> Even Brian McGahan can't type at gigabit speed! :)
>
>
>
>
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> Tyson Scott wrote:
>> Scott,
>>
>> I am not sure if it is inside information that they will be using the
> 3560 E
>> Series but I find it surprising if that is the case. They are going
> with
>> 1841's which are about as cheap as it gets. I find it unlikely they
> would
>> then use 3560-E's with the 1841's. On Cisco's post it says
>>
>> Catalyst 3560 Series switches running IOS version 12.2 - Advanced IP
>> Services
>>
>> https://cisco.hosted.jivesoftware.com/docs/DOC-4602
>>
>> I assume that they also mean IP Services as Advanced IP Services has
> been
>> phased out and the options are now IP Services and IP Base.
>>
>> I find it more likely they would connect the 3825's to the 3560 with
> SFP
>> GBICs, (Either Fiber or Copper) on the 3560 then waste a 3560-E with
> 24 GB
>> Ethernet ports. But who knows sometimes.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S and Security
>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
>> Scott M Vermillion
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:53 AM
>> To: Cisco certification
>> Subject: New Blueprint - Can Anyone Think of a Need for the "E"
>> Series
> 3560?
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> So we know they're moving to the ISRs (about time!) on the router
>> side
>
>> of the house. In looking at the blueprint, can anyone see what might
>
>> be driving them to the "E" flavor of the 3560? In the real world,
>> 10GigE is often the driving factor for ponying up the extra $$$, at
>> least in my experience. Not sure what value that would hold here?
>> Just curious more than anything...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
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