Re: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???

> I think you pretty much need a CCIE to make a living in most places
these days

I attended a meeting a while back and of the seven people in the room,
three of us were R&S CCIEs (two independent consultants and one
channel partner rep). The other four were the prospective client.
Out of the CCIE bunch, I was the only one to not have ever published a
book (need to get on that!). So I think we are indeed reaching that
point of critical mass that Bobby suggests where the baseline
expectation for consulting work (not just independent consulting, but
also the kind where you are farmed out by your employer/channel
partner too) is that you hold at least one CCIE. In an effort to
stand out from the rest of the CCIE pack, people are pursuing second,
third, etc CCIEs, MBAs, and even publishing books just for the name
recognition (there's not a lot of money in it from what I understand,
at least not directly).

BTW, it's my understanding that Cisco desires to crank out 4,000 new
CCIEs every >TWELVE< months, so hold on to your hats if you think the
past 18 months were anything noteworthy...

On May 5, 2009, at 5:26 , Joseph L. Brunner wrote:

> Nope... not even close guys...
>
> Having two kids and $120,000 is not even your bills anymore after
> taxes... if that doesn't motivate you to pass the CCIE nothing will...
>
> I have lots of friends and ex-coworkers in that boat...
>
> I think you pretty much need a CCIE to make a living in most places
> these days and the number of people studying/taking/passing directly
> reflects that...
>
> Like 5 years ago I would ask people so are you going to get your
> CCIE, they would say stuff like "my wife wont let me retreat from
> the family all weekend", etc.
> Now it's, Oh I passed R/S, I'm actually working on Voice :)
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Brad Ellis
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:28 PM
> To: Modular; Cisco certification
> Subject: RE: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
>
> Oh boy...here we go...
>
> So, first off, the lab is one day, vs. 2-days. But the biggest
> change is
> the number of seats available. Probably 2 to 3 times that "back in the
> day" if not more. I'd say that the biggest impact.
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Modular
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:22 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
>
> ALL,
>
> I have a friend who passed his lab, (security), in November of 2007.
> His
> number is 19511. I passed last week and my number is 24266. So, in 18
> months
> 4700+ people got their number. This seems crazy when you consider that
> between 1993 and the end of 2007 there were 18500+ CCIEs. What do you
> guys
> attribute this increase to? Dynamips?? Is it that theres wasnt an
> Ipexpert
> or Internetwork Expert around back in the day? Is the lab easier
> than
> it
> use to be?
>
>
>
> Bryan
>
>
> Bryan Rakestraw
> CCIE# 24266 (R&S)
>
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