Re: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???

I have a feeling it will change after October 19th :P

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:56 PM, GAURAV MADAN <gauravmadan1177_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> I agree here with Abdul
> Now a days I have noticed that people do clear their CCNA , CCNP level
> certifications in college only .
> And after college they take a break of year or so and successfull clear
> their CCIE .
>
> SO the fact or the trend now is ..... get your CCIE number and then jump in
> market ..
> If you are a employer ; you will be glad to hire someone at entry level job
> but having knowledge of these concepts ..
>
> IMHO ; I see no harm in people doing CCIE early in their careers .... and
> this is one of the reason why we are seeing increase in number of CCIEs
> very
> quickly .
>
> Gaurav Madan
> CCIE
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Abdul <rslab007_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I agree with everything all of you have said. For old hats like me (been
> > doing network engineering for 14yrs now), alot of has change (and
> continues
> > to do so), but alot of the baseline concepts are the same. 10+ years ago,
> > finding core routing and switching guys who really knew there stuff would
> > have taken you awhile. For people like me who were in college and
> > gratuated,
> > they didn't teach this stuff in school (back then a Computer Engineering
> > undergrad degree was a glorified Electrical Engineer who knew a bit of
> > software development and a whole lot of assembly language). Nowadays you
> > got
> > highschool kids coming up with core routing/switching and security
> skills.
> > ALL colleges teach skills that are applicable to TODAYS work force. Its
> > much
> > more competitive and (for guys like me who just love the technology)
> > exciting. If you want it,if you have time, if you have a drive, you will
> > get it. Lots of good teachers out there and good materials to help people
> > get to their goal. Much, much more than in the old days, where there were
> > no
> > schools, materials, and you were basically on your own reading the Cisco
> > CCIE books of Roosevelt Giles and Bruce Caslow (for them old hats out
> > there).
> >
> > Congrats to all the new guys getting their numbers. And for the rest of
> us
> > who don't have it..keep working hard to get it.
> >
> > Good luck with your studying..
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Santiago Enciso
> > <senciso_at_infocenter.com.py>wrote:
> >
> > > And what about Cisco's growth? The company itself has been growing at
> > that
> > > speed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Mensaje original-----
> > > De: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] En nombre de
> > > Jared
> > > Scrivener
> > > Enviado el: Martes, 05 de Mayo de 2009 08:16 p.m.
> > > Para: 'Joseph L. Brunner'; 'Brad Ellis'; 'Modular'; 'Cisco
> certification'
> > > Asunto: RE: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
> > >
> > > I'd attribute it to a wider acceptance of the certification in our
> field
> > > (and wider recognition of the $ value of the CCIE), a larger number of
> > > seats
> > > and, most importantly a FAR higher level of quality training at a much
> > more
> > > affordable price due to the desire of each of the vendors to create the
> > > best
> > > possible training products. Gotta love the free market. :)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Jared Scrivener CCIE3 #16983 (R&S, Security, SP), CISSP
> > > Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > > Mailto: jscrivener_at_ipexpert.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Joseph L. Brunner
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2009 4:27 PM
> > > To: Brad Ellis; Modular; Cisco certification
> > > Subject: RE: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
> > >
> > > Nope... not even close guys...
> > >
> > > Having two kids and $120,000 is not even your bills anymore after
> > taxes...
> > > if that doesn't motivate you to pass the CCIE nothing will...
> > >
> > > I have lots of friends and ex-coworkers in that boat...
> > >
> > > I think you pretty much need a CCIE to make a living in most places
> these
> > > days and the number of people studying/taking/passing directly reflects
> > > that...
> > >
> > > Like 5 years ago I would ask people so are you going to get your CCIE,
> > they
> > > would say stuff like "my wife wont let me retreat from the family all
> > > weekend", etc.
> > > Now it's, Oh I passed R/S, I'm actually working on Voice :)
> > >
> > > -Joe
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Brad
> > > Ellis
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:28 PM
> > > To: Modular; Cisco certification
> > > Subject: RE: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
> > >
> > > Oh boy...here we go...
> > >
> > > So, first off, the lab is one day, vs. 2-days. But the biggest change
> is
> > > the number of seats available. Probably 2 to 3 times that "back in the
> > > day" if not more. I'd say that the biggest impact.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Brad Ellis
> > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> > > CCSI# 30482
> > > CEO / President
> > > CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Partner (CLP)
> > > Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> > > Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> > > International: +1-702-968-5100
> > > Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> > > FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> > > Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Modular
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:22 PM
> > > To: Cisco certification
> > > Subject: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
> > >
> > > ALL,
> > >
> > > I have a friend who passed his lab, (security), in November of 2007.
> His
> > > number is 19511. I passed last week and my number is 24266. So, in 18
> > > months
> > > 4700+ people got their number. This seems crazy when you consider that
> > > between 1993 and the end of 2007 there were 18500+ CCIEs. What do you
> > > guys
> > > attribute this increase to? Dynamips?? Is it that there s wasn t an
> > > Ipexpert
> > > or Internetwork Expert around back in the day ? Is the lab easier than
> > > it
> > > use to be?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bryan
> > >
> > >
> > > Bryan Rakestraw
> > > CCIE# 24266 (R&S)
> > >
> > >
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