Re: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???

People thought the same when Open ended questions were introduced ..
But hardworkers will always succeed .
Now that there is more awareness and recognization for these certifications
( expecially CCIE) ; i think that more and more people will work and acheive
this

Gaurav Madan

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:15 PM, qospf qospf <cisco.qospf_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a feeling it will change after October 19th :P
>
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:56 PM, GAURAV MADAN <gauravmadan1177_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I agree here with Abdul
>> Now a days I have noticed that people do clear their CCNA , CCNP level
>> certifications in college only .
>> And after college they take a break of year or so and successfull clear
>> their CCIE .
>>
>> SO the fact or the trend now is ..... get your CCIE number and then jump
>> in
>> market ..
>> If you are a employer ; you will be glad to hire someone at entry level
>> job
>> but having knowledge of these concepts ..
>>
>> IMHO ; I see no harm in people doing CCIE early in their careers .... and
>> this is one of the reason why we are seeing increase in number of CCIEs
>> very
>> quickly .
>>
>> Gaurav Madan
>> CCIE
>>
>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Abdul <rslab007_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I agree with everything all of you have said. For old hats like me (been
>> > doing network engineering for 14yrs now), alot of has change (and
>> continues
>> > to do so), but alot of the baseline concepts are the same. 10+ years
>> ago,
>> > finding core routing and switching guys who really knew there stuff
>> would
>> > have taken you awhile. For people like me who were in college and
>> > gratuated,
>> > they didn't teach this stuff in school (back then a Computer Engineering
>> > undergrad degree was a glorified Electrical Engineer who knew a bit of
>> > software development and a whole lot of assembly language). Nowadays you
>> > got
>> > highschool kids coming up with core routing/switching and security
>> skills.
>> > ALL colleges teach skills that are applicable to TODAYS work force. Its
>> > much
>> > more competitive and (for guys like me who just love the technology)
>> > exciting. If you want it,if you have time, if you have a drive, you
>> will
>> > get it. Lots of good teachers out there and good materials to help
>> people
>> > get to their goal. Much, much more than in the old days, where there
>> were
>> > no
>> > schools, materials, and you were basically on your own reading the Cisco
>> > CCIE books of Roosevelt Giles and Bruce Caslow (for them old hats out
>> > there).
>> >
>> > Congrats to all the new guys getting their numbers. And for the rest of
>> us
>> > who don't have it..keep working hard to get it.
>> >
>> > Good luck with your studying..
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Santiago Enciso
>> > <senciso_at_infocenter.com.py>wrote:
>> >
>> > > And what about Cisco's growth? The company itself has been growing at
>> > that
>> > > speed.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Mensaje original-----
>> > > De: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] En nombre de
>> > > Jared
>> > > Scrivener
>> > > Enviado el: Martes, 05 de Mayo de 2009 08:16 p.m.
>> > > Para: 'Joseph L. Brunner'; 'Brad Ellis'; 'Modular'; 'Cisco
>> certification'
>> > > Asunto: RE: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
>> > >
>> > > I'd attribute it to a wider acceptance of the certification in our
>> field
>> > > (and wider recognition of the $ value of the CCIE), a larger number of
>> > > seats
>> > > and, most importantly a FAR higher level of quality training at a much
>> > more
>> > > affordable price due to the desire of each of the vendors to create
>> the
>> > > best
>> > > possible training products. Gotta love the free market. :)
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > >
>> > > Jared Scrivener CCIE3 #16983 (R&S, Security, SP), CISSP
>> > > Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>> > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>> > > Mailto: jscrivener_at_ipexpert.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>> > > Joseph L. Brunner
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2009 4:27 PM
>> > > To: Brad Ellis; Modular; Cisco certification
>> > > Subject: RE: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
>> > >
>> > > Nope... not even close guys...
>> > >
>> > > Having two kids and $120,000 is not even your bills anymore after
>> > taxes...
>> > > if that doesn't motivate you to pass the CCIE nothing will...
>> > >
>> > > I have lots of friends and ex-coworkers in that boat...
>> > >
>> > > I think you pretty much need a CCIE to make a living in most places
>> these
>> > > days and the number of people studying/taking/passing directly
>> reflects
>> > > that...
>> > >
>> > > Like 5 years ago I would ask people so are you going to get your CCIE,
>> > they
>> > > would say stuff like "my wife wont let me retreat from the family all
>> > > weekend", etc.
>> > > Now it's, Oh I passed R/S, I'm actually working on Voice :)
>> > >
>> > > -Joe
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>> > > Brad
>> > > Ellis
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:28 PM
>> > > To: Modular; Cisco certification
>> > > Subject: RE: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
>> > >
>> > > Oh boy...here we go...
>> > >
>> > > So, first off, the lab is one day, vs. 2-days. But the biggest change
>> is
>> > > the number of seats available. Probably 2 to 3 times that "back in the
>> > > day" if not more. I'd say that the biggest impact.
>> > >
>> > > thanks,
>> > > Brad Ellis
>> > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>> > > CCSI# 30482
>> > > CEO / President
>> > > CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Partner (CLP)
>> > > Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>> > > Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>> > > International: +1-702-968-5100
>> > > Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>> > > FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>> > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>> > > Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>> > > Modular
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:22 PM
>> > > To: Cisco certification
>> > > Subject: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
>> > >
>> > > ALL,
>> > >
>> > > I have a friend who passed his lab, (security), in November of 2007.
>> His
>> > > number is 19511. I passed last week and my number is 24266. So, in 18
>> > > months
>> > > 4700+ people got their number. This seems crazy when you consider that
>> > > between 1993 and the end of 2007 there were 18500+ CCIEs. What do you
>> > > guys
>> > > attribute this increase to? Dynamips?? Is it that there s wasn t an
>> > > Ipexpert
>> > > or Internetwork Expert around back in the day ? Is the lab easier
>> than
>> > > it
>> > > use to be?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Bryan
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Bryan Rakestraw
>> > > CCIE# 24266 (R&S)
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > >
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