Re: Core Knowledge - Don't mis-interpret this

I got one of my quesitons badly worded. I asked some CCIEs about that
question and they had no clue what the questions was trying to ask. At the
end of the day, a badly worded question may cost $1400!!!!!!!!!!

-I

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 12:26 PM, prateek reddy <prateek.reddyk_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Larry,
>
> What you said was right. But at the End of the Day, we don't have any
> other choice, than blindly following what Cisco implements.
>
> "i think its now fair really...you need to be a book worm not a network
> engineer
> if the idea was to know everything then they wouldnt give access to the doc
> cd"
>
> I support this point!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Mohamed El Henawy <m.henawy_at_link.net
> >wrote:
>
> > i think its now fair really...you need to be a book worm not a network
> > engineer
> > if the idea was to know everything then they wouldnt give access to the
> doc
> > cd
> >
> > anyway...this is the rule of the game , so sorry for you larry...
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Narbik Kocharians" <
> narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> > To: "Larry" <cc13lab_at_gmail.com>
> > Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: Core Knowledge - Don't mis-interpret this
> >
> >
> > KNOW THE R&S LAB BLUE PRINT Theory, if you know how to configure the
> >> stuff,
> >> as a CCIE candidate you should be fine with the theory.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> A grabbing subject which I have seen tons of posts on. The problem is
> the
> >>> section is not what it implies...
> >>>
> >>> I usually don't post much but for some reason I have not heard anyone
> >>> explain what is expected from this section. Some say to read and know
> >>> your
> >>> core L3 stuff really good... other say that it is so easy that you
> don't
> >>> have to study... Well I figured I would assist in this quest as I
> failed
> >>> the
> >>> test a few weeks back because of this very topic and think there is a
> >>> feeling out there that if you know your routing/L3 you will be okay....
> >>> Don't be fooled by Core Knowledge - know your ip services/features and
> >>> off
> >>> topics and know how to configure them w/o the doc cd (or at least try).
> >>>
> >>> Here is a post that I added to my blog, take it for what it is worth. I
> >>> have
> >>> talked to a lot of other candidates some that had similar experiences
> and
> >>> some had such basic stuff that a ccna could answer. Hopefully this will
> >>> save
> >>> someone $1400!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ___- Failed Attempt -
> >>> ______________________________________________________
> >>> __________________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> Been a couple weeks now since my last attempt. The lab went really
> good,
> >>> felt like I got a test that I knew everything on. Finished up at 1:29
> in
> >>> the
> >>> afternoon and had the rest of the time to review. I reviewed the entire
> >>> exam
> >>> twice and found 4 errors which would have cost some big points. My lab
> >>> score...... over 90% in 4 sections....
> >>>
> >>> Problem is I didn't get open ended questions that I knew, or
> >>> understood....
> >>> One question was about the configuration of a subset of an ip feature.
> I
> >>> have done IE, IPEXPERT and all of the ASET labs and have not seen this
> >>> "feature" on any of them. The other question I guess I missed was one
> >>> written in classic cisco language of which I have still to find the
> >>> answer
> >>> or the meaning of the question. The other questions that I got were
> basic
> >>> scenario type questions that required you to know the default values
> and
> >>> configurations of the feature in question. Not hard if you had done a
> ton
> >>> of
> >>> labs (like I had).
> >>>
> >>> I know there are people out there that say the questions are so basic
> >>> that
> >>> any CCIE level candidate should know and I agree. In fact I found one
> of
> >>> my
> >>> questions in the chapter summary of one of my cisco press books for the
> >>> ccnp. What is wrong with this type of testing is that there are only 4
> >>> questions. If you are suppose to be a CCIE you should know 80% of
> >>> everything
> >>> they throw at you. So with only 4 questions you are at a risk of
> getting
> >>> 2
> >>> questions (or in my case a badly worded question in which no help can
> be
> >>> asked) which you don't know even though you know more than 80% of the
> >>> material. Why not give us 10 - 20 questions and expand the lab another
> 30
> >>> mins. Then the chances of a well prepared ccie candidate getting less
> >>> than
> >>> 80% are almost non-existant.
> >>>
> >>> I am not at all against the ccie and I think that cisco had to do
> >>> something.
> >>> After all, I will get this certification and when I do I want all the
> >>> hours
> >>> that have taken away from my family and friends to mean something. But
> I
> >>> think they missed the challenge on this one....
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
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> >> Narbik Kocharians
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> K.V.Madhu Prateek Reddy.
>
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