Re: Core Knowledge - Don't mis-interpret this

Guys Ur scaring me alot :D anyway lets see.. What I'll encounter on Monday
:). Let my try my luck and see whether the day is mine or not!! or else I
should look for $1400 :D for next attempt :)

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Syed Ali <testcricket_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I got one of my quesitons badly worded. I asked some CCIEs about that
> question and they had no clue what the questions was trying to ask. At the
> end of the day, a badly worded question may cost $1400!!!!!!!!!!
>
> -I
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> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 12:26 PM, prateek reddy <prateek.reddyk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Larry,
>>
>> What you said was right. But at the End of the Day, we don't have any
>> other choice, than blindly following what Cisco implements.
>>
>> "i think its now fair really...you need to be a book worm not a network
>> engineer
>> if the idea was to know everything then they wouldnt give access to the
>> doc
>> cd"
>>
>> I support this point!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Mohamed El Henawy <m.henawy_at_link.net
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > i think its now fair really...you need to be a book worm not a network
>> > engineer
>> > if the idea was to know everything then they wouldnt give access to the
>> doc
>> > cd
>> >
>> > anyway...this is the rule of the game , so sorry for you larry...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Narbik Kocharians" <
>> narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> > To: "Larry" <cc13lab_at_gmail.com>
>> > Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:27 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Core Knowledge - Don't mis-interpret this
>> >
>> >
>> > KNOW THE R&S LAB BLUE PRINT Theory, if you know how to configure the
>> >> stuff,
>> >> as a CCIE candidate you should be fine with the theory.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> A grabbing subject which I have seen tons of posts on. The problem is
>> the
>> >>> section is not what it implies...
>> >>>
>> >>> I usually don't post much but for some reason I have not heard anyone
>> >>> explain what is expected from this section. Some say to read and know
>> >>> your
>> >>> core L3 stuff really good... other say that it is so easy that you
>> don't
>> >>> have to study... Well I figured I would assist in this quest as I
>> failed
>> >>> the
>> >>> test a few weeks back because of this very topic and think there is a
>> >>> feeling out there that if you know your routing/L3 you will be
>> okay....
>> >>> Don't be fooled by Core Knowledge - know your ip services/features and
>> >>> off
>> >>> topics and know how to configure them w/o the doc cd (or at least
>> try).
>> >>>
>> >>> Here is a post that I added to my blog, take it for what it is worth.
>> I
>> >>> have
>> >>> talked to a lot of other candidates some that had similar experiences
>> and
>> >>> some had such basic stuff that a ccna could answer. Hopefully this
>> will
>> >>> save
>> >>> someone $1400!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ___- Failed Attempt -
>> >>> ______________________________________________________
>> >>> __________________________________________________________
>> >>>
>> >>> Been a couple weeks now since my last attempt. The lab went really
>> good,
>> >>> felt like I got a test that I knew everything on. Finished up at 1:29
>> in
>> >>> the
>> >>> afternoon and had the rest of the time to review. I reviewed the
>> entire
>> >>> exam
>> >>> twice and found 4 errors which would have cost some big points. My lab
>> >>> score...... over 90% in 4 sections....
>> >>>
>> >>> Problem is I didn't get open ended questions that I knew, or
>> >>> understood....
>> >>> One question was about the configuration of a subset of an ip feature.
>> I
>> >>> have done IE, IPEXPERT and all of the ASET labs and have not seen this
>> >>> "feature" on any of them. The other question I guess I missed was one
>> >>> written in classic cisco language of which I have still to find the
>> >>> answer
>> >>> or the meaning of the question. The other questions that I got were
>> basic
>> >>> scenario type questions that required you to know the default values
>> and
>> >>> configurations of the feature in question. Not hard if you had done a
>> ton
>> >>> of
>> >>> labs (like I had).
>> >>>
>> >>> I know there are people out there that say the questions are so basic
>> >>> that
>> >>> any CCIE level candidate should know and I agree. In fact I found one
>> of
>> >>> my
>> >>> questions in the chapter summary of one of my cisco press books for
>> the
>> >>> ccnp. What is wrong with this type of testing is that there are only 4
>> >>> questions. If you are suppose to be a CCIE you should know 80% of
>> >>> everything
>> >>> they throw at you. So with only 4 questions you are at a risk of
>> getting
>> >>> 2
>> >>> questions (or in my case a badly worded question in which no help can
>> be
>> >>> asked) which you don't know even though you know more than 80% of the
>> >>> material. Why not give us 10 - 20 questions and expand the lab another
>> 30
>> >>> mins. Then the chances of a well prepared ccie candidate getting less
>> >>> than
>> >>> 80% are almost non-existant.
>> >>>
>> >>> I am not at all against the ccie and I think that cisco had to do
>> >>> something.
>> >>> After all, I will get this certification and when I do I want all the
>> >>> hours
>> >>> that have taken away from my family and friends to mean something. But
>> I
>> >>> think they missed the challenge on this one....
>> >>>
>> >>>
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