Re: Core Knowledge - Don't mis-interpret this

Larry,

     What you said was right. But at the End of the Day, we don't have any
other choice, than blindly following what Cisco implements.

"i think its now fair really...you need to be a book worm not a network
engineer
if the idea was to know everything then they wouldnt give access to the doc
cd"

I support this point!!!!!!!!!

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Mohamed El Henawy <m.henawy_at_link.net>wrote:

> i think its now fair really...you need to be a book worm not a network
> engineer
> if the idea was to know everything then they wouldnt give access to the doc
> cd
>
> anyway...this is the rule of the game , so sorry for you larry...
>
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> To: "Larry" <cc13lab_at_gmail.com>
> Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Core Knowledge - Don't mis-interpret this
>
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> KNOW THE R&S LAB BLUE PRINT Theory, if you know how to configure the
>> stuff,
>> as a CCIE candidate you should be fine with the theory.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A grabbing subject which I have seen tons of posts on. The problem is the
>>> section is not what it implies...
>>>
>>> I usually don't post much but for some reason I have not heard anyone
>>> explain what is expected from this section. Some say to read and know
>>> your
>>> core L3 stuff really good... other say that it is so easy that you don't
>>> have to study... Well I figured I would assist in this quest as I failed
>>> the
>>> test a few weeks back because of this very topic and think there is a
>>> feeling out there that if you know your routing/L3 you will be okay....
>>> Don't be fooled by Core Knowledge - know your ip services/features and
>>> off
>>> topics and know how to configure them w/o the doc cd (or at least try).
>>>
>>> Here is a post that I added to my blog, take it for what it is worth. I
>>> have
>>> talked to a lot of other candidates some that had similar experiences and
>>> some had such basic stuff that a ccna could answer. Hopefully this will
>>> save
>>> someone $1400!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ___- Failed Attempt -
>>> ______________________________________________________
>>> __________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Been a couple weeks now since my last attempt. The lab went really good,
>>> felt like I got a test that I knew everything on. Finished up at 1:29 in
>>> the
>>> afternoon and had the rest of the time to review. I reviewed the entire
>>> exam
>>> twice and found 4 errors which would have cost some big points. My lab
>>> score...... over 90% in 4 sections....
>>>
>>> Problem is I didn't get open ended questions that I knew, or
>>> understood....
>>> One question was about the configuration of a subset of an ip feature. I
>>> have done IE, IPEXPERT and all of the ASET labs and have not seen this
>>> "feature" on any of them. The other question I guess I missed was one
>>> written in classic cisco language of which I have still to find the
>>> answer
>>> or the meaning of the question. The other questions that I got were basic
>>> scenario type questions that required you to know the default values and
>>> configurations of the feature in question. Not hard if you had done a ton
>>> of
>>> labs (like I had).
>>>
>>> I know there are people out there that say the questions are so basic
>>> that
>>> any CCIE level candidate should know and I agree. In fact I found one of
>>> my
>>> questions in the chapter summary of one of my cisco press books for the
>>> ccnp. What is wrong with this type of testing is that there are only 4
>>> questions. If you are suppose to be a CCIE you should know 80% of
>>> everything
>>> they throw at you. So with only 4 questions you are at a risk of getting
>>> 2
>>> questions (or in my case a badly worded question in which no help can be
>>> asked) which you don't know even though you know more than 80% of the
>>> material. Why not give us 10 - 20 questions and expand the lab another 30
>>> mins. Then the chances of a well prepared ccie candidate getting less
>>> than
>>> 80% are almost non-existant.
>>>
>>> I am not at all against the ccie and I think that cisco had to do
>>> something.
>>> After all, I will get this certification and when I do I want all the
>>> hours
>>> that have taken away from my family and friends to mean something. But I
>>> think they missed the challenge on this one....
>>>
>>>
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