From: Hobbs (deadheadblues@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 16 2009 - 23:41:29 ARST
good work man. Congratulations :)
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Jason Madsen <madsen.jason@gmail.com>wrote:
> Congrat's Joe! That's an awesome accomplishment...hope to do the same
> here
> shortly.
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Josh Covarrubias <shmokin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Great advice Joe! Congrats on your digits. Totally agree with the 8
> hours
> > labs simulating the real one. Did U pass Very Recent?!?
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Anthony Sequeira <
> > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Congrats and thanks for your 2 cents!
> > >
> > > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> > > Senior CCIE Instructor
> > >
> > > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 16, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Joe wrote:
> > >
> > > In an attempt to keep this email list from filling up with
> > non-technical
> > >> and non-ccie related conversations, I won't ramble on about my
> "success
> > >> story". Suffice it to say, like most IE's I had to put in a lot of
> time,
> > >> money and effort into my pursuit and it finally paid off...If you
> don't
> > >> have
> > >> to sacrifice, then you are either a networking savant or you're not
> > doing
> > >> what you need to to pass.
> > >> With that said, I would like to throw out some advice that I think
> is
> > >> relevant to this list and hopefully helpful to those of you who are
> > >> serious
> > >> about obtaining your IE, especially those of you, who like me, haven't
> > >> passed on your first attempt;
> > >> 1st) Do practice labs! It's that easy, do as many as you can from a
> > >> reputable vendor. I'm not here to prop one vendor over another...just
> > find
> > >> 1
> > >> (more if possible) that has a proven track record and do their labs.
> > *The
> > >> key is not so much the material but how you study it! Do the labs just
> > >> like
> > >> you're are going to do the real lab! Meaning...in the real lab you
> don't
> > >> get
> > >> to see the questions or the topology before hand, you don't get to go
> to
> > a
> > >> proctor guide or google when you get stuck, you have 8 hours. So, when
> > you
> > >> have a lab manual, schedule your 8 to 10 hours, don't look at any of
> the
> > >> material before hand...then just sit there for 8 hours straight,
> beating
> > >> your head against the wall, using only the doc cd. When you start,
> don't
> > >> touch a router until you have read through the whole lab, written down
> > >> your
> > >> "blue print" and point values and have a plan for the lab. Then go at
> > it,
> > >> if
> > >> you get stuck or stumped, don't look up the answer! Track your points
> > and
> > >> save your configs (maybe a show ip route or ip bgp or what ever is
> > >> relevant
> > >> as well) to your PC for grading yourself later.
> > >> When you have finished (either right after if you're that impatient)
> > or
> > >> the next day go through the lab and grade it, be honest with yourself,
> > and
> > >> find out what you missed, then study it, learn it and understand it.
> > >> (Those
> > >> are your "off" days). Then, schedule your next Lab session and do it
> > >> again!
> > >> At first you'll get owned, feel like crap and wonder what in the
> hell
> > >> you are doing. Probably will take you more than 10 hours to get
> through
> > >> the
> > >> labs, but do it all. After the first 5 to 10 you'll get to where you
> can
> > >> finish them in 8 hours, hopefully even sooner after 15 or 20 (the
> > >> assumption
> > >> is the labs get progressively harder but you are getting even faster).
> > >> *part
> > >> of completing a lab, is going back through the questions and verifying
> > >> each
> > >> task...without fail you will find at least one thing you did wrong or
> > >> missed...that means you need to calculate that into your 8 hours. Get
> in
> > >> the
> > >> habit though
> > >> 2nd) Once you have done 5 or 10 labs, if you are in a position, do a
> > >> graded mock lab or... 7. See how you do. I wouldn't worry so much
> about
> > >> the
> > >> score or "explanations" after the fact, but more of "did I come up
> with
> > A
> > >> solution for every section?" "Did I finish it in time?" "How was my
> time
> > >> management?" "How well did I think on my feet?"
> > >> (While I did not pass one of my mock labs, I always completed them,
> came
> > >> up
> > >> with solutions and learned how important it is to notice the little
> > >> details)
> > >> Use the mock labs to evaluate your testing strategy.
> > >> In all I did over 30 full labs (including my mock labs)...so sitting
> > >> down for 8 hours in the real lab was nothing for me, I had been doing
> it
> > 2
> > >> to 3 times a week for months. That kind of experience is crucial for
> > >> success
> > >> in the real lab. What's more, I finish my lab (had a solution in place
> > for
> > >> each question) in 5 and a half hours and was able to spend the next 2
> > >> hours
> > >> going back over each question. I easily earned between 15 to 25 points
> > >> that
> > >> way. Having that extra time allowed me to re-read scenarios, pick up
> on
> > >> key-words, verify syntax et...You need to be able to get through the
> lab
> > >> quickly...if you have done 20+ "labs" all ready, the real lab isn't
> > nearly
> > >> as daunting in terms of time or manageability.
> > >> The point is this, you can't do practice labs one way and think that
> > >> you'll do the real lab another. The real lab should be 2nd nature in
> > terms
> > >> of your initial read through and assessment, your time management and
> > >> troubleshooting of individual scenarios, and your re-read and
> > verification
> > >> at the end.
> > >> I hope this has been helpful. Doing simple math 8 hours X 2 or 3
> times
> > a
> > >> week = a lot of time and that doesn't include the "off" days where you
> > >> need
> > >> to "grade" your self, study weak areas, practice configs, and browse
> the
> > >> doc
> > >> cd. It's a huge investment of time, but if you're going to do it, do
> it
> > >> right and don't "cheat" yourself.
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>
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