From: Jason Madsen (madsen.jason@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 16 2009 - 23:25:23 ARST
Congrat's Joe! That's an awesome accomplishment...hope to do the same here
shortly.
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Josh Covarrubias <shmokin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great advice Joe! Congrats on your digits. Totally agree with the 8 hours
> labs simulating the real one. Did U pass Very Recent?!?
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Anthony Sequeira <
> asequeira@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>
> > Congrats and thanks for your 2 cents!
> >
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> > On Jan 16, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Joe wrote:
> >
> > In an attempt to keep this email list from filling up with
> non-technical
> >> and non-ccie related conversations, I won't ramble on about my "success
> >> story". Suffice it to say, like most IE's I had to put in a lot of time,
> >> money and effort into my pursuit and it finally paid off...If you don't
> >> have
> >> to sacrifice, then you are either a networking savant or you're not
> doing
> >> what you need to to pass.
> >> With that said, I would like to throw out some advice that I think is
> >> relevant to this list and hopefully helpful to those of you who are
> >> serious
> >> about obtaining your IE, especially those of you, who like me, haven't
> >> passed on your first attempt;
> >> 1st) Do practice labs! It's that easy, do as many as you can from a
> >> reputable vendor. I'm not here to prop one vendor over another...just
> find
> >> 1
> >> (more if possible) that has a proven track record and do their labs.
> *The
> >> key is not so much the material but how you study it! Do the labs just
> >> like
> >> you're are going to do the real lab! Meaning...in the real lab you don't
> >> get
> >> to see the questions or the topology before hand, you don't get to go to
> a
> >> proctor guide or google when you get stuck, you have 8 hours. So, when
> you
> >> have a lab manual, schedule your 8 to 10 hours, don't look at any of the
> >> material before hand...then just sit there for 8 hours straight, beating
> >> your head against the wall, using only the doc cd. When you start, don't
> >> touch a router until you have read through the whole lab, written down
> >> your
> >> "blue print" and point values and have a plan for the lab. Then go at
> it,
> >> if
> >> you get stuck or stumped, don't look up the answer! Track your points
> and
> >> save your configs (maybe a show ip route or ip bgp or what ever is
> >> relevant
> >> as well) to your PC for grading yourself later.
> >> When you have finished (either right after if you're that impatient)
> or
> >> the next day go through the lab and grade it, be honest with yourself,
> and
> >> find out what you missed, then study it, learn it and understand it.
> >> (Those
> >> are your "off" days). Then, schedule your next Lab session and do it
> >> again!
> >> At first you'll get owned, feel like crap and wonder what in the hell
> >> you are doing. Probably will take you more than 10 hours to get through
> >> the
> >> labs, but do it all. After the first 5 to 10 you'll get to where you can
> >> finish them in 8 hours, hopefully even sooner after 15 or 20 (the
> >> assumption
> >> is the labs get progressively harder but you are getting even faster).
> >> *part
> >> of completing a lab, is going back through the questions and verifying
> >> each
> >> task...without fail you will find at least one thing you did wrong or
> >> missed...that means you need to calculate that into your 8 hours. Get in
> >> the
> >> habit though
> >> 2nd) Once you have done 5 or 10 labs, if you are in a position, do a
> >> graded mock lab or... 7. See how you do. I wouldn't worry so much about
> >> the
> >> score or "explanations" after the fact, but more of "did I come up with
> A
> >> solution for every section?" "Did I finish it in time?" "How was my time
> >> management?" "How well did I think on my feet?"
> >> (While I did not pass one of my mock labs, I always completed them, came
> >> up
> >> with solutions and learned how important it is to notice the little
> >> details)
> >> Use the mock labs to evaluate your testing strategy.
> >> In all I did over 30 full labs (including my mock labs)...so sitting
> >> down for 8 hours in the real lab was nothing for me, I had been doing it
> 2
> >> to 3 times a week for months. That kind of experience is crucial for
> >> success
> >> in the real lab. What's more, I finish my lab (had a solution in place
> for
> >> each question) in 5 and a half hours and was able to spend the next 2
> >> hours
> >> going back over each question. I easily earned between 15 to 25 points
> >> that
> >> way. Having that extra time allowed me to re-read scenarios, pick up on
> >> key-words, verify syntax et...You need to be able to get through the lab
> >> quickly...if you have done 20+ "labs" all ready, the real lab isn't
> nearly
> >> as daunting in terms of time or manageability.
> >> The point is this, you can't do practice labs one way and think that
> >> you'll do the real lab another. The real lab should be 2nd nature in
> terms
> >> of your initial read through and assessment, your time management and
> >> troubleshooting of individual scenarios, and your re-read and
> verification
> >> at the end.
> >> I hope this has been helpful. Doing simple math 8 hours X 2 or 3 times
> a
> >> week = a lot of time and that doesn't include the "off" days where you
> >> need
> >> to "grade" your self, study weak areas, practice configs, and browse the
> >> doc
> >> cd. It's a huge investment of time, but if you're going to do it, do it
> >> right and don't "cheat" yourself.
> >>
> >>
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