From: darth router (darklordrouter@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Nov 23 2008 - 00:38:55 ARST
over 100k tax free? I'd stay where your at. In fact, hook me up with a job
:)
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Farhan Anwar <farhan.anwar@gmail.com>wrote:
> Darby, would you please highlight, the problems, because the only reason i
> was considering to move to US is growth and good, projects. I make more
> than
> 100,000 USD tax free, but with all the problems listed above. Moving to US
> even after the recession is over and the market stability is regained, is
> that a good move or not.
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Really are there people in US/Europe who are also badly stuck w.r.t
> growth.
> >
> >
> > If this is the case I am satisfied : )
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/11/22 Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
> >
> > I know many engineers in the USA facing similar dilemmas, circumstances,
> >> and
> >> conditions typically for a lot less salary.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Farhan Anwar <farhan.anwar@gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi All,
> >> > I am working in the UAE, and as far as job options are concerned being
> a
> >> > CCIE, you don't have any problems for job, but i do agree some
> companies
> >> > have freezed their hiring because of the global economic slowdown. But
> >> the
> >> > effect here is minimal or not yet started in full swing :), specially
> in
> >> oil
> >> > rich abu dhabi emirate.
> >> >
> >> > The place is good with unlimited and unique entertainment, leasure and
> >> > shopping options. Safety is not an issue. Cars are cheap, like bmw's
> and
> >> > range-rovers are mostly the favorites. Fuel is cheap, almost 2.5 USD
> a
> >> > gallon.
> >> >
> >> > Technically speaking, the problem is most of the people you interact
> are
> >> > not of technical background but they are sitting with extremely
> >> technical
> >> > designations and in the end you get frustrated that where the hell you
> >> are
> >> > stuck. Specially in Network Design and Security.
> >> >
> >> > I have faced some problems when i moved in here and this would also
> >> answer
> >> > why now i am trying to move onto the European or US market, let me
> share
> >> > with you the problems.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Technical Growth gets stuck, because i barely find any time free
> to
> >> > study as the time gets wasted in either commuting or traffic-jams.
> >> > - On the job, learning is limited as the work is repeated most of
> the
> >> > time.
> >> > - Most of the projects, even the smaller ones have uncapped budgets
> >> > which defeats the purpose of optimization. For example an average
> >> company
> >> > would not have any problems buying up Bluecoat proxysg 8100, even
> if
> >> they
> >> > dont haveany requirements for it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Traffic, on an average 2 - 4 hours per day you have to get stuck.
> >> In
> >> > my opinion, the time you are spending on street is wasted as its
> not
> >> given
> >> > to work or family. In this case, we usually work 8 hours, may be 10
> >> hours
> >> > some times, get 8 hours sleep which barely leaves sometime being
> >> spent with
> >> > the family.
> >> > - You can't find the accommodation in the house-allowance the
> company
> >> > gives you. For doing some saving you have to move either to some
> >> other
> >> > emirate and waste more time or move into the accommodation that
> takes
> >> 50% of
> >> > your salary in advance for the full year.
> >> > - Since their is no train system yet introduced, every expat is
> >> buying
> >> > a car as first priority which is creating traffic, parking and
> >> saturation
> >> > issues.
> >> > - Although there is no Tax on the income but you end up saving the
> >> same
> >> > amount of money which you would save in other regions.
> >> > - The Internet access is still immature and highly dominated by a
> >> > single player, the average dsl speeds avaiable are 256k, 512k and
> 1M,
> >> at the
> >> > cost of 70 USD per month for 512k with extremely limited upload of
> >> 128k.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thats all i can think of right now, in the end, it is totally my
> >> personal
> >> > opinion and some people would agree and some may disagree.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 11/22/08, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Some people may be having a hiring freeze and others can't fill some
> >> >> positions. It's a rough battle.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Marko Milivojevic <
> markom@markom.info
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Aren't they, like pretty much the rest of the world, in a hiring
> >> pause
> >> >> now?
> >> >> > :-)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:51, Gary Duncanson
> >> >> > <garyduncanson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> >> > > Dubai rocks.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Any interesting jobs out there unicast me.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Regards
> >> >> > > Gary
> >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <sheherezada@gmail.com>
> >> >> > > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >> >> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:46 AM
> >> >> > > Subject: OT: CCIE Salary Survey
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> Both Cisco and IBM are moving their EMEA headquarters to Dubai,
> as
> >> I
> >> >> > >> have heard. So no need to nominate someone.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Mihai
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Tony Varriale
> >> >> > >> <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Care to share your list? I have not seen one high profile exec
> >> make
> >> >> a
> >> >> > >>> public statement supporting yours (and I don't know of any
> living
> >> >> > there).
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> >> >> Behalf
> >> >> > Of
> >> >> > >>> Darby Weaver
> >> >> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:36 AM
> >> >> > >>> To: Felix Nkansah
> >> >> > >>> Cc: Muhammad Nasim; Jonny English; Administrator; Cyrus; Larry
> >> >> > Letterman
> >> >> > >>> (lletterm); Scott Morris; Joseph Brunner; Huzefa;
> >> >> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> >> > >>> Subject: Re: CCIE Salary Survey
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Think of it like this....
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Most super US executives who can... do live or plan to move to
> >> >> Dubai,
> >> >> > >>> the
> >> >> > >>> Internet City or something like that.
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> It's not what you see on TV, it's Ultra-Modern. Makes cities
> in
> >> New
> >> >> > York
> >> >> > >>> and California look like the old west.
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Ignorance is bliss.
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Felix Nkansah
> >> >> > >>> <felixnkansah@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>> Hi,
> >> >> > >>>>
> >> >> > >>>> I have been to Dubai a couple of times.
> >> >> > >>>> It's been rated by some US and UK mags as the most peaceful
> >> place
> >> >> on
> >> >> > >>>> earth
> >> >> > >>>> for ten consecutive years. I mean it.
> >> >> > >>>>
> >> >> > >>>> At least you're not going to hear of car thefts or robberies.
> I
> >> >> feel
> >> >> > >>>> safer
> >> >> > >>>> when walking out there.
> >> >> > >>>>
> >> >> > >>>> Of course, everything stands out for argument, but this is my
> >> >> personal
> >> >> > >>>> observation of Dubai.
> >> >> > >>>>
> >> >> > >>>> Only that things are too expensive for my liking.
> >> >> > >>>>
> >> >> > >>>> Felix
> >> >> > >>>>
> >> >> > >>>>
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> >> >> > >>>>
> >> >> > >>>>
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> > Network Engineer
> > Saudi Arabia
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> Syed Farhan A. Hussain
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