From: oluwaseyi ojo (sameoj@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Nov 17 2008 - 13:54:13 ARST
You guys should stop trading words like school children, each certification
has its own benefits, just because 5 people in your office have CISSP and
they cannot configure the basic stuff on a pix doesn`t mean the cert is
useless,there are some certs out there that once you have it, your pay goes
high outside CCIE/CISSP, everybody cannot be a CCIE and every body cannot be
a CISSP. Its a matter of choice.I have pal that are not certified,Cisco or
ISC2,but they can configure a firewall.
So you guys should stop this "cert wars" and let us
study,PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
> Right, I agree "knowledge is never useless"
>
> There is better security knowledge for today's re-aligned world in the
> CCNA-SEC
>
> I wouldn't even say the CISSP is an inch deep... it's about a millimeter
> deep, that's why I think its worthless. The CCIE written's are an inch
> deep.
>
> But to each is own... I worked at a company where like 5 people got the
> CISSP. None of them could configure even the basic stuff on a pix... so
> what
> does that tell you???
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Diment, Andrew
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:26 AM
> To: Joseph Brunner; darth router; Cisco certification
> Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
>
> I don't agree with your assessment that the CISSP is useless. Does it
> teach you to configure a firewall...no, but neither does a college
> degree. Would you consider that useless too? Knowledge is never
> useless.
>
> You just need to take it for what it is, a 50,000 foot view of all
> aspects of security. A mile wide and an inch deep. By itself it might
> not mean much, but it does show you went through the material and passed
> the test. Anything, and I mean anything, that will move your resume to
> the "interview" pile is very useful.
>
> I very recently applied for a security job within my own company. I got
> a call from HR and the guys exact words were "you have a CCIE and a
> CISSP, I'm going to immediately forward your resume to the hiring
> manager". I had an interview 24 hours later.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Joseph Brunner
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:39 AM
> To: 'darth router'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
>
> OT is right.. search the archives...
>
> My thoughts - useless, now more than ever...
>
> Its bad in IT right now unless you can configure a firewall, not tell us
> we should have one. Unless you can configure a lockdown of a voice over
> ip network, not tell us we should lock down our voice over ip network.
> Get it?
>
> The CISSP is heavy on theory, but not many places have time for theories
> any more... they are running their budgets on empty until at least 2011.
> Its time to roll up your sleeves and hit the datacenter.
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> darth router
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:58 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
>
> Anyone have it? Does it bring any real value to your career?
>
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