From: Diment, Andrew (Andrew.Diment@qwest.com)
Date: Mon Nov 17 2008 - 13:53:40 ARST
It's not a technical certification by any means and it's not meant to
be, but it's not worthless either. That all I'm trying to say.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Brunner [mailto:joe@affirmedsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:41 AM
To: Diment, Andrew; 'darth router'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
Right, I agree "knowledge is never useless"
There is better security knowledge for today's re-aligned world in the
CCNA-SEC
I wouldn't even say the CISSP is an inch deep... it's about a millimeter
deep, that's why I think its worthless. The CCIE written's are an inch
deep.
But to each is own... I worked at a company where like 5 people got the
CISSP. None of them could configure even the basic stuff on a pix... so
what does that tell you???
-Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Diment, Andrew
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:26 AM
To: Joseph Brunner; darth router; Cisco certification
Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
I don't agree with your assessment that the CISSP is useless. Does it
teach you to configure a firewall...no, but neither does a college
degree. Would you consider that useless too? Knowledge is never
useless.
You just need to take it for what it is, a 50,000 foot view of all
aspects of security. A mile wide and an inch deep. By itself it might
not mean much, but it does show you went through the material and passed
the test. Anything, and I mean anything, that will move your resume to
the "interview" pile is very useful.
I very recently applied for a security job within my own company. I got
a call from HR and the guys exact words were "you have a CCIE and a
CISSP, I'm going to immediately forward your resume to the hiring
manager". I had an interview 24 hours later.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joseph Brunner
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:39 AM
To: 'darth router'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
OT is right.. search the archives...
My thoughts - useless, now more than ever...
Its bad in IT right now unless you can configure a firewall, not tell us
we should have one. Unless you can configure a lockdown of a voice over
ip network, not tell us we should lock down our voice over ip network.
Get it?
The CISSP is heavy on theory, but not many places have time for theories
any more... they are running their budgets on empty until at least 2011.
Its time to roll up your sleeves and hit the datacenter.
-Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
darth router
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:58 PM
To: Cisco certification
Subject: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
Anyone have it? Does it bring any real value to your career?
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