From: Duncan Maccubbin (duncan.maccubbin@earthlink.net)
Date: Mon Nov 17 2008 - 13:53:51 ARST
How much did your CCIE teach you about Physical data center security? Disaster recovery? Law? While it didn't go into deep detail I still learned quit a bit. The CISSP is what it is which is not a vendor specific hands on exam.
"But to each is own... I worked at a company where like 5 people got the CISSP. None of them could configure even the basic stuff on a pix... so what does that tell you???"
It tells me you have no clue what the CISSP exam is about.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
>Sent: Nov 17, 2008 10:41 AM
>To: "'Diment, Andrew'" <Andrew.Diment@qwest.com>, 'darth router' <darklordrouter@gmail.com>, 'Cisco certification' <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
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>Right, I agree "knowledge is never useless"
>
>There is better security knowledge for today's re-aligned world in the
>CCNA-SEC
>
>I wouldn't even say the CISSP is an inch deep... it's about a millimeter
>deep, that's why I think its worthless. The CCIE written's are an inch deep.
>
>But to each is own... I worked at a company where like 5 people got the
>CISSP. None of them could configure even the basic stuff on a pix... so what
>does that tell you???
>
>-Joe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>Diment, Andrew
>Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:26 AM
>To: Joseph Brunner; darth router; Cisco certification
>Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
>
>I don't agree with your assessment that the CISSP is useless. Does it
>teach you to configure a firewall...no, but neither does a college
>degree. Would you consider that useless too? Knowledge is never
>useless.
>
>You just need to take it for what it is, a 50,000 foot view of all
>aspects of security. A mile wide and an inch deep. By itself it might
>not mean much, but it does show you went through the material and passed
>the test. Anything, and I mean anything, that will move your resume to
>the "interview" pile is very useful.
>
>I very recently applied for a security job within my own company. I got
>a call from HR and the guys exact words were "you have a CCIE and a
>CISSP, I'm going to immediately forward your resume to the hiring
>manager". I had an interview 24 hours later.
>
>Andy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>Joseph Brunner
>Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:39 AM
>To: 'darth router'; 'Cisco certification'
>Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
>
>OT is right.. search the archives...
>
>My thoughts - useless, now more than ever...
>
>Its bad in IT right now unless you can configure a firewall, not tell us
>we should have one. Unless you can configure a lockdown of a voice over
>ip network, not tell us we should lock down our voice over ip network.
>Get it?
>
>The CISSP is heavy on theory, but not many places have time for theories
>any more... they are running their budgets on empty until at least 2011.
>Its time to roll up your sleeves and hit the datacenter.
>
>-Joe
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>darth router
>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:58 PM
>To: Cisco certification
>Subject: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
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>Anyone have it? Does it bring any real value to your career?
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