From: darth router (darklordrouter@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Nov 17 2008 - 19:28:50 ARST
Good conversation. I've seen it as a DoD contract requirement before. I'd
probably look at it as a resume booster, but I do have to admit, there was
good material with what I did read over, just boring, and not action packed
like working on cisco gear!
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Duncan Maccubbin <
duncan.maccubbin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> How much did your CCIE teach you about Physical data center security?
> Disaster recovery? Law? While it didn't go into deep detail I still learned
> quit a bit. The CISSP is what it is which is not a vendor specific hands on
> exam.
>
> "But to each is own... I worked at a company where like 5 people got the
> CISSP. None of them could configure even the basic stuff on a pix... so what
> does that tell you???"
>
> It tells me you have no clue what the CISSP exam is about.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> >Sent: Nov 17, 2008 10:41 AM
> >To: "'Diment, Andrew'" <Andrew.Diment@qwest.com>, 'darth router' <
> darklordrouter@gmail.com>, 'Cisco certification' <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
> >
> >Right, I agree "knowledge is never useless"
> >
> >There is better security knowledge for today's re-aligned world in the
> >CCNA-SEC
> >
> >I wouldn't even say the CISSP is an inch deep... it's about a millimeter
> >deep, that's why I think its worthless. The CCIE written's are an inch
> deep.
> >
> >But to each is own... I worked at a company where like 5 people got the
> >CISSP. None of them could configure even the basic stuff on a pix... so
> what
> >does that tell you???
> >
> >-Joe
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >Diment, Andrew
> >Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:26 AM
> >To: Joseph Brunner; darth router; Cisco certification
> >Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
> >
> >I don't agree with your assessment that the CISSP is useless. Does it
> >teach you to configure a firewall...no, but neither does a college
> >degree. Would you consider that useless too? Knowledge is never
> >useless.
> >
> >You just need to take it for what it is, a 50,000 foot view of all
> >aspects of security. A mile wide and an inch deep. By itself it might
> >not mean much, but it does show you went through the material and passed
> >the test. Anything, and I mean anything, that will move your resume to
> >the "interview" pile is very useful.
> >
> >I very recently applied for a security job within my own company. I got
> >a call from HR and the guys exact words were "you have a CCIE and a
> >CISSP, I'm going to immediately forward your resume to the hiring
> >manager". I had an interview 24 hours later.
> >
> >Andy
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >Joseph Brunner
> >Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:39 AM
> >To: 'darth router'; 'Cisco certification'
> >Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
> >
> >OT is right.. search the archives...
> >
> >My thoughts - useless, now more than ever...
> >
> >Its bad in IT right now unless you can configure a firewall, not tell us
> >we should have one. Unless you can configure a lockdown of a voice over
> >ip network, not tell us we should lock down our voice over ip network.
> >Get it?
> >
> >The CISSP is heavy on theory, but not many places have time for theories
> >any more... they are running their budgets on empty until at least 2011.
> >Its time to roll up your sleeves and hit the datacenter.
> >
> >-Joe
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >darth router
> >Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:58 PM
> >To: Cisco certification
> >Subject: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
> >
> >Anyone have it? Does it bring any real value to your career?
> >
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