From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Nov 18 2008 - 19:28:35 ARST
All,
I've seen a lot of demand for the CISSP.
It's not that hard from a technical perspective but it is broad and does
require a little time to study for it.
It has its place and some people with the CISSP are commanding greater
salaries than a CCIE.
But recall the CISSP is not assumed to have any specific knowledge of either
a PIX/ASA nor Cisco.
It's a generalist certification very similar to the SANS GSEC.
If you want to work in a Security capacity it's kind of assumed to be there.
So not a bad $500.00 or so investment for the exam or maybe $4500-5000.00
for a class.
Cheaper than a CCIE for sure.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:28 PM, darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>wrote:
> Good conversation. I've seen it as a DoD contract requirement before. I'd
> probably look at it as a resume booster, but I do have to admit, there was
> good material with what I did read over, just boring, and not action packed
> like working on cisco gear!
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Duncan Maccubbin <
> duncan.maccubbin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > How much did your CCIE teach you about Physical data center security?
> > Disaster recovery? Law? While it didn't go into deep detail I still
> learned
> > quit a bit. The CISSP is what it is which is not a vendor specific hands
> on
> > exam.
> >
> > "But to each is own... I worked at a company where like 5 people got the
> > CISSP. None of them could configure even the basic stuff on a pix... so
> what
> > does that tell you???"
> >
> > It tells me you have no clue what the CISSP exam is about.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > >Sent: Nov 17, 2008 10:41 AM
> > >To: "'Diment, Andrew'" <Andrew.Diment@qwest.com>, 'darth router' <
> > darklordrouter@gmail.com>, 'Cisco certification' <ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >
> > >Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
> > >
> > >Right, I agree "knowledge is never useless"
> > >
> > >There is better security knowledge for today's re-aligned world in the
> > >CCNA-SEC
> > >
> > >I wouldn't even say the CISSP is an inch deep... it's about a millimeter
> > >deep, that's why I think its worthless. The CCIE written's are an inch
> > deep.
> > >
> > >But to each is own... I worked at a company where like 5 people got the
> > >CISSP. None of them could configure even the basic stuff on a pix... so
> > what
> > >does that tell you???
> > >
> > >-Joe
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > >Diment, Andrew
> > >Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:26 AM
> > >To: Joseph Brunner; darth router; Cisco certification
> > >Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
> > >
> > >I don't agree with your assessment that the CISSP is useless. Does it
> > >teach you to configure a firewall...no, but neither does a college
> > >degree. Would you consider that useless too? Knowledge is never
> > >useless.
> > >
> > >You just need to take it for what it is, a 50,000 foot view of all
> > >aspects of security. A mile wide and an inch deep. By itself it might
> > >not mean much, but it does show you went through the material and passed
> > >the test. Anything, and I mean anything, that will move your resume to
> > >the "interview" pile is very useful.
> > >
> > >I very recently applied for a security job within my own company. I got
> > >a call from HR and the guys exact words were "you have a CCIE and a
> > >CISSP, I'm going to immediately forward your resume to the hiring
> > >manager". I had an interview 24 hours later.
> > >
> > >Andy
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > >Joseph Brunner
> > >Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:39 AM
> > >To: 'darth router'; 'Cisco certification'
> > >Subject: RE: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
> > >
> > >OT is right.. search the archives...
> > >
> > >My thoughts - useless, now more than ever...
> > >
> > >Its bad in IT right now unless you can configure a firewall, not tell us
> > >we should have one. Unless you can configure a lockdown of a voice over
> > >ip network, not tell us we should lock down our voice over ip network.
> > >Get it?
> > >
> > >The CISSP is heavy on theory, but not many places have time for theories
> > >any more... they are running their budgets on empty until at least 2011.
> > >Its time to roll up your sleeves and hit the datacenter.
> > >
> > >-Joe
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > >darth router
> > >Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:58 PM
> > >To: Cisco certification
> > >Subject: OT What do you all think about CISSP certification?
> > >
> > >Anyone have it? Does it bring any real value to your career?
> > >
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