From: kelly (kelly@cliffhanger.com)
Date: Tue Nov 04 2008 - 19:56:33 ARST
Jonathan Greenwood II said ...
Nobody wants socialism and I think nobody
wants the government to do for them. But
when you have Failed policys for the past
8yrs
Which policies have failed?
that give the biggest tax breaks to
company's
Companies pay a lot in taxes. The USA has the
2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world. Why
do you say they get "the biggest tax breaks"?
When that tax rate was reduced, yes, they got a
tax break. If you're paying ...oh let's just say
10 billion in taxes and, then the tax break brings
that down to 7 billion ...one could say, hey,
they got a 3 billion tax break! That's huge. But
they're still paying 7 billion on taxes.
These figures are for illustation, I don't claim
they are accurate in any way. However, I think
Exxon paid $30 Billion in taxes for 2007.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/63131-exxon-s-2007-tax-bill-30-billion
who ship jobs oversees
Maybe they're looking for the cheaper corporate
taxes in other countries? Maybe if the USA
reduced the corporate and captial gains taxes,
they wouldn't be so willing to "ship jobs
overseas".
then what do you expect for entire
communitys across several parts of this
nation who have lost their jobs when
plants/factorys close down.
The Democrats favorite strategy. Hope and pray
the people will not understand, it was their
increased taxes and protection trade practices
that forced the jobs to go away. Then blame the
"big companies".
--Quoting Jonathan Greenwood II <gwood83@gmail.com>: Nobody wants socialism and I think nobody wants the government to do for them. But when you have Failed policys for the past 8yrs that give the biggest tax breaks to company's who ship jobs oversees then what do you expect for entire communitys across several parts of this nation who have lost their jobs when plants/factorys close down. Government plays a role with its Policy's along with Wallstreet and CEO's of some of the largest companys in regulating a healthy US Economy. Greed is the reason why most CEO's ship their operations overseas. I'm all for free trade but there has to be some sort of regulation that protects american workers. The Rich keep getting richer and those not as fortunate continue to loose JOBS that are being shipped overseas. The line has to be drawn somewhere to Protect American Workers. As a contractor I've been amazed how over the past few years the explosion with Major F500 companys in our own Field of networking exploiting foreigners to come here and Work on their Visa for low wages just because they know they can get away with it. My 2cents Jonathan On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Matt Bentley <mattdbentley@gmail.com>wrote: > I am afraid it is the disassociation of intelligence *from *politics that > has placed us in our current situation. Socialism is disdained by > Americans > because it embodies the breeding ground for tyranny our Founding Fathers > worked to avoid - at one time our public school system taught respect for > those men. Socialism infers that instead of providing for yourself, you > are > provided for. We have drifted towards a socialistic economic model because > the moral principles upon which freedom and truth stand are being blown > apart - with thunderous applause from the majority of Americans. For the > government to attempt to fix the symptoms of these problems is like using > cheese cloth to patch a sinking ship. At one time, there was a man who > understood this. If you don't recognize the following quote, please turn > in > your social-security card at the voting booth (providing you have one of > course - though I'm told this doesn't matter so much any more). > > "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, > religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man > claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great > pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and > citizens." > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com > >wrote: > > > Let's not forget that a Republican President from Texas was the first to > > hire 2 African Americans for his two of his most senior white house > > positions. > > > > (Secretary of State Colin Powell and National Security Advisor > Condoleezza > > Rice) > > > > As an employer, I can tell you number one way you can show your respect > for > > someone is to give them a job. Period. > > > > For all his talk of being "the first Black President" what did Clinton do > > (other than put his office on 125th street in Harlem after he left the > > white > > house) > > > > -Joe > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > > kelly > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:30 PM > > To: darth router > > Cc: Sadiq Yakasai; Hyunseog Ryu; Larry Letterman (lletterm); Roman > > Rodichev; > > Cisco certification > > Subject: Re: OT RE: Networkers for Obama > > > > Darth Router said ... > > > > At least with Texans, the world > > "socialism" in this campain > > really means I hate black > > people ;) > > > > > > Speaking as a Texan, the statement made > > by Darth Router is untrue. I do not > > believe the majority of people in Texas > > feel as he has described. I know I do > > not. > > > > Yes, there is still prejudice in Texas > > as well as the rest of the world. > > Unfortunately, it will always be. We > > can only hope the trend of those who > > feel that way, continue to dwindle. > > But, making statements like that does > > not help it to continue. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Quoting darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>: > > Ya, socialism and wealth redistribution was started through > taxation > > back in > > 1912. Going on forever. > > > > At least with Texans, the world "socialism" in this campain really > > means I > > hate black people ;) > > > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Sadiq Yakasai < > sadiqtanko@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Obama or not, redistribution of wealth happens in the US right > > now! > > > > > > how do you explain socials??? how do you explain the millions > that > > get > > > treated in hospitals in case of A&E who cant later pay the > bills? > > why is it > > > a problem when someone wants to *legalize* this? > > > > > > and for the "joe the plumbers" out there, how do u save enough > in > > the first > > > place to be rich enough to even buy the business? > > > > > > Mccain has done much for ur country, but if i cld vote, i would > > vote Obama! > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Subscription information may be found at: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Subscription information may be found at: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Subscription information may be found at: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
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