From: Brandon Carroll (Brandon.carroll@ascolta.com)
Date: Thu Oct 09 2008 - 12:09:27 ART
I suppose I would have to put it this way. Its a Cisco Press book about a
Cisco developed exam about the Cisco Unified Wireless Solution. It's not
intended to be anything else. There is some overview in there of the Wireless
Technology but again, its a Cisco book. It covers the topics found here:
https://cisco.hosted.jivesoftware.com/community/certifications/wireless_ccna/
iuwne?view=overview
Additionally, I wrote this book at the same time that the course was being
developed so it is definitely NOT the course book. The course book by the way
is not done by Cisco Press, it's done by Cisco (usually a partner that has the
contract).
So, bottom line: Its not vendor neutral, its not the course book. Its an
exam certification guide, not an overview. IT covers the topics on the exam.
On another note, ALL of Cisco's Certifications, including the R&S are
Cisco-Centric. While getting the CCIE in R&S does in fact give you a great
deal of knowledge on how networks work, its still a Cisco network and all the
gear is Cisco gear.
That's my, opinion. HTH.
Brandon Carroll
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From: Scott M Vermillion [mailto:scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com]
Sent: Wed 10/8/2008 7:57 PM
To: Brandon Carroll
Cc: smorris@internetworkexpert.com; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Your New CCNA Wireless Book
OK Brandon, so it's established that this allows the new NA flavors to just
be the focused disciplines that they are (which is cool). The approach that
Cisco Press often takes is that there's a "course book" (for lack of a
better term) and then a "cert guide," with the latter often being much more
of a high-level review. Would you consider your own book an effective
barometer of where Cisco is headed with the wireless certification track? I
guess one of the main concerns/questions on my mind (and we'll all know the
answer to this soon enough but I'm not always the most patient of sorts) is
whether or not they can/will be as vendor-neutral with the wireless certs as
they have been able to be with the more generic R&S track? On the whole, my
own personal client base has not exactly tripped over themselves to deploy
Cisco's wireless product line (due to a variety of reasons, one obvious
among them being a pretty significant cost differential as compared to some
reasonably respected competitors). So if this track were to be headed down
a markedly Cisco-centric path, I'd be less interested in it than if
otherwise.
If you're not comfortable discussing this on list, I'd be very grateful if
you'd be willing to hash it with me briefly offline. I just thought there
would be a general interest since this will ultimately become the latest,
greatest CCIE track available to the community. And it was just too darned
convenient that I was reading the outline of your book when a balloon of
your post regarding the CA server issue popped up from my system tray! ;-)
Cheers,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Carroll [mailto:brandon.j.carroll@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Brandon Carroll
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 6:58 PM
To: Scott M Vermillion
Cc: smorris@internetworkexpert.com; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: Re: Your New CCNA Wireless Book
Yep- You have to be a CCNA to then get the CCNA wireless so no point
in duplicating the content.
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On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Scott M Vermillion wrote:
> Oh, news to me. Guess I need to actually look at these new certs
> and their
> requirements. I wasn't really interested in actually pursuing any
> of the
> new NA flavors in terms of actually sitting any of the exams, but I
> happily
> took the time to look over the book's outline. It really jumped out
> at me
> that there was no fundamental IP stuff, but then I had no idea that
> the core
> "R&S" NA was a prerequisite!
>
> So I guess in light of that new knowledge, I would certainly have to
> agree
> with you...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@internetworkexpert.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 6:09 PM
> To: 'Scott M Vermillion'; 'Brandon Carroll'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: Your New CCNA Wireless Book
>
> Just my two cents on it... If the CCNA-R&S is a prerequisite for
> any of the
> other CCNA flavors, why would they need to repeat that information?
>
> I haven't looked at it either, so I don't have any other context for
> my
> opinion, but that's the first thing that comes to my mind.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Scott M Vermillion
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 7:59 PM
> To: 'Brandon Carroll'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: OT: Your New CCNA Wireless Book
>
> Hey Brandon,
>
> I was just reading the outline for your new CCNA Wireless book (it's
> featured in this month's Bookpool.com promo). It appears as though
> this
> cert is pretty much exclusively wireless and does really not touch
> upon
> fundamental IP topics (which is odd to me, honestly). Would you
> agree? And
> would the book therefore still be of interest to more senior-level
> network
> engineers? I have an interest in the upcoming CCIE Wireless track
> but it's
> generally my approach to start with the core fundamentals when
> taking on
> something like this. There are certainly some things about wireless
> that I
> know, particularly on the RF side. But there's much that I haven't
> drank in
> terms of Cisco's wireless architectures/products Kool-Aid, if you
> will.
> Does this book offer a good foundation as far as that goes?
>
> Thanks much,
>
> Scott
> #19953 (R&S)
>
>
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