From: Anthony Faria (tfaria72@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Oct 09 2008 - 12:08:12 ART
LOL I wasn't going to go into details but I can if you want. I will air this
out in the open. The fact i did not have time to prepare was a problem was
with budget from my employer and your sales team did not want to move my
date. I did the bootcamp material. I also had the cod on disc so how do you
know if I did 5 %? I did not do the Mock labs which I said nothing about
every one liked those. So before you come out and tell these people this get
your facts straight. I am not trying to slam you but you need to get your
facts straight. Like I said I did not air all the dirty laundry I can if you
want. If you want to talk more please Unicast me. Or if you want to continue
to try to slam me we can air this all out in the open. I was giving my
opinion I did not go into details but I can if you want. How come they sent
you to email this by the way?
Tony
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Brian McGahan <
bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> Hi Anthony,
>
> Not to take anything away from what you said below, but it would be only
> fair if you also included the fact that you knew coming into our 12 day
> Bootcamp that you were not even close to being prepared for it. Although,
> as you know, I wasn't present for the class due to other teaching
> obligations, Brian and Petr informed me that you opted to do the R&S Volume
> I labs the week of class over the Bootcamp material. The problem with this
> approach is that the Bootcamp material is designed for people who are
> looking for that last 20% of their preparation, and not the first 20%, which
> is what the Volume 1 labs are targeted for.
>
> Also a prerequisite for attending the 12 day Bootcamp is to complete both
> weeks of our Advanced Technologies Class-on-Demand. The reason we highly
> suggest candidates to do this is that there's no possible way that you can
> learn everything in a 5 day or even a 12 day class. You need to have a very
> strong background in the "why" of the technologies before you try to apply
> the "how". Reviewing your account I can see that you had only viewed less
> than 5% of the CoD before attending the Bootcamp.
>
> Once again not to take away from what you are getting this week, but the
> the two Bootcamps (Narbik's and ours) aren't positioned as the same
> offerings in the market. If you read the description for the class posted
> on our website it says:
>
> "Audience:
> CCIE Routing & Switching lab candidates who are within two months of their
> lab exam. Ideally students will take this Bootcamp and appear for the real
> lab the following week. Because this is an advanced Bootcamp, introductory
> material will not be covered and students are expected to have attended the
> Advanced Technologies Class Online or watched the Advanced Technologies
> Class-on-Demand along with having completed at least the first five Routing
> & Switching Volume II Workbook labs prior to attending."
>
> For example, for candidates attending this class we assume that they do not
> need a 10 hour lecture on OSPF, since they should have already spent vast
> amounts of time in their preparation reading about how OSPF works, watching
> our CoD that explains live on the CLI how and why OSPF works, and configured
> OSPF themselves on the CLI extensively.
>
> You took our Bootcamp with the intention of retaking it again at a later
> date, which of course we will still honor, and I would love to meet you in,
> however I think this is counterproductive. Personally I think it would have
> been better to start at the foundation, work through that material (workbook
> volume 1, CoD), and then compile a large list of questions that you would
> like to bring up with the instructor in real-time during the Bootcamp.
>
> The point in the end is that there are no shortcuts to passing this exam.
> The candidates that consistently fail the exam over and over and over, and
> we have met many that have hit 10+ attempts before passing, are the ones
> that refuse to step back and see the forest for the trees. Unless you take
> the technological prerequisites for the exam seriously and evaluate yourself
> honestly, you'll find yourself facing a $1350 lunch, and a $50 rack rental
> ;)
>
> Please feel free to contact me offline to discuss this in more detail. You
> can reach me at this email address or at 877-224-8987 x 705.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
> bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705
> Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705
>
> Anthony Faria wrote:
>
> Well I wanted to send this email out to the guys starting out. If you are
> wondering what boot camp to take. First off let me say I in no way received
> or profited from this email in anyway. I read a lot of posts regarding
> Narbik`s bootcamps and how great they were. At the same time a lot of people
> said it was Narbik posting them. I am a real person and some of you know me.
> I went to an IE camp in June for two weeks. I was very unsure of myself at
> the time. I thought the first 5 days of the class was pretty bad. I did not
> say much because I felt like I had not studied hard enough to say so. I
> thought I would just re take the class and that would fix things. Well I
> also signed up for Narbiks class at the same time I signed up for IE. It
> looked like the winning combination at the time. I am currently in Narbiks
> class. Three days into this class I realized why people love his class so
> much. It seems like just before I get ready to ask a question he answers it.
> The lectures are the best lectures I have ever heard for Cisco. I can go on
> and on saying the same things everyone else has said because they are true.
> So please dont refiance everything you own(like me). If you want to learn
> the technologies this is the place to do it. I have never said anything
> before because I did not know what I was missing out on. I wont go into
> details about the IE class or Bag on them. I just dont think the first five
> days of the class were worth it. If you are going to spend your money buy
> something worth it. I took the 9 grand class because I thought shit it cost
> more so it has to be better than a 2 grand class. Boy was I wrong!! I am not
> saying the 12 days was worth less (just the first 5 days)but it was not
> worth the price. So if you are researching a bootcamp this is the one I
> suggest. I know I will get a lot of heat over this. I usually dont like
> confrontation. I felt I should say my experience. No one twisted my arm or
> bribed me. Others may disagree just my feelings. You can hate me ban me do
> whatever. This is just my opinion.
>
>
> Tony
>
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