From: Radioactive Frog (pbhatkoti@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Sep 11 2008 - 02:13:19 ART
hehe
sounds like Nortel router/voip products are beaten to the death here!!
they are like that.
good on ya.........
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Victor Cappuccio <vcappuccio@gmail.com>wrote:
> hahahahaha to funny....
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>
> > I just tested the "self-defending" hypothesis. I hit my 2811 ISR router
> > with a hammer. It didn't defend itself. Now I have to open a TAC case.
> >
> > thanks,
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Dane Newman
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:45 AM
> > To: Luan Nguyen
> > Cc: Colin McNamara; Cisco certification
> > Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
> >
> > I don't know with cisco it's the self defending network how could I
> > ever trust a company that wants to put me out of a job
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Sep 10, 2008, at 12:30 PM, "Luan Nguyen" <luan@netcraftsmen.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Cisco wants to remind people that if it's Cisco Powered Network, it
> > > could be
> > > run by toddlers :), which reminds me that I should get my 7 years
> > > old a
> > > Cisco router for his birthday instead of some Lego Bionicles.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > Colin McNamara
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:21 PM
> > > Cc: 'Cisco certification'
> > > Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
> > >
> > > If that would get them to stop using the "human network" I would be
> > > all in.
> > > I just don't get the point of having pictures of toddlers in slide
> > > decks
> > > while presenting to enterprise customers.....
> > >
> > > Joseph Brunner wrote:
> > >> :0)
> > >>
> > >> Great one man!
> > >>
> > >> That pretty much settles it!
> > >>
> > >> Cisco should use that as it ad slogan!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "What has your network done for you lately?"
> > >>
> > >> Considering I'm consulting till the end of the year at Ogilvy &
> > >> Mather
> > > (who
> > >> has the Cisco account) I'll walk up stairs and ask them to use it!
> > >>
> > >> LOL
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > >> Behalf Of
> > >> Anthony Faria
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:55 AM
> > >> To: Colin McNamara
> > >> Cc: Cisco certification
> > >> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
> > >>
> > >> All I know is that it is Cisco that pays my bills. I think a lot of
> > >> us
> > > could
> > >> say the same. What has Nortel done for me lately LOL.
> > >>
> > >> Tony
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Colin McNamara <Colin@2cups.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Does anybody want to get into a Ford vs Chevy debate while we are
> > >>> at it?
> > >>> Both companies are mature large cap investments. I think people
> > >>> would
> > >>> generally agree that Nortel's strength has mainly been in carrier
> > >>>
> > >> equipment
> > >>
> > >>> and TDM PBX's. Cisco has always been heavy in the enterprise play
> > >>> (route
> > > /
> > >>> switch / voip / security), while participating in the carrier
> > >>> segments
> > >>>
> > >> also.
> > >>
> > >>> I think at the end of the day the discussion is not about what is
> > >>> better
> > >>>
> > >> or
> > >>
> > >>> faster, because with chipset releases, code upgrades that will
> > >>> always
> > >>> change. The question is, what is better for the customer. That can
> > >>> encompass, training, support, future proofing, end to end product
> > >>>
> > >> coverage.
> > >>
> > >>> In that aspect, I think Cisco has an edge.
> > >>>
> > >>> But, thats just my opinion.
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Colin McNamara
> > >>> (858)208-8105
> > >>> CCIE #18233,RHCE,GCIH http://www.colinmcnamara.com
> > >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/colinmcnamara
> > >>>
> > >>> "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little
> > >>> longer"
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Joseph Brunner wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> And if you look at Cisco's Stock Price it has a steady rate of
> > >>>> growth.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> Really?
> > >>>> So much for that analyst job at Goldman Zacks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://finance.google.com/finance?q=csco
> > >>>>
> > >>>> hit "5yr" its been pretty flat the whole decade. Cisco is a mature
> > >>>> company.
> > >>>> Nortel is a mature company also, but with less marketing and bad
> > >>>> management.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Both of these companies together are in a very flat, slow growth
> > >>>>
> > >> industry.
> > >>
> > >>>> Apple computer makes toys for people with credit cards who don't
> > >>>> like
> > >>>> saving
> > >>>> money like IPOD's and Mac books;
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cisco makes network technology that powers business and government
> > >>>> communication networks.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cisco was once a $500B company. It has yet to recover from the .com
> > > bust.
> > >>>> So in a way Cisco's shareholders didn't benefit from the
> > >>>> 2002-2006 stock
> > >>>> market recovery much, if at all.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Crox was a better stock ;) (and they are more comfortable too!)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > >>>> Behalf Of
> > >>>> Christopher Copley
> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:09 AM
> > >>>> To: Muhammad Nasim
> > >>>> Cc: Ina&Laurean; Bill Eyer; Brad Ellis; Cisco certification
> > >>>> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Group,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This may be very OT, but if you look at Nortel Stock price it is
> > >>>> in a
> > >>>>
> > >> nose
> > >>
> > >>>> dive. And if you look at Cisco's Stock Price it has a steady
> > >>>> rate of
> > >>>> growth. Technology aside, why trust your network in the hands of a
> > >>>> company
> > >>>> that looks like it is bleeding money(and failing) like dropped
> > >>>> packets
> > >>>> from
> > >>>> a firewall? Now this is coming from a business perspective and
> > >>>> not a
> > >>>> technology perspective, but I would rather trust my network to a
> > >>>> company/vender that looks like it will still be here in 2010! I
> > >>>> have
> > >>>>
> > >> read
> > >>
> > >>>> nothing but bad things in the investment realm on the quality of
> > >>>> Nortel
> > >>>>
> > >> as
> > >>
> > >>>> a
> > >>>> viable company to invest in. So again, why trust your network to
> > >>>> any
> > >>>> thing
> > >>>> with a Nortel sticker on it?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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