From: Cisco Godfather (cisco_godfather@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Sep 11 2008 - 04:15:32 ART
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nice one brad
> Subject: RE: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:48:49 -0700> From: brad@ccbootcamp.com> To: dane.newman@gmail.com; luan@netcraftsmen.net> CC: Colin@2cups.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> > I just tested the "self-defending" hypothesis. I hit my 2811 ISR router> with a hammer. It didn't defend itself. Now I have to open a TAC case.> > thanks,> Brad Ellis> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)> CCSI# 30482> CEO / President> CCBOOTCAMP - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO)> Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com> Toll Free: 877-654-2243> International: +1-702-968-5100> Toronto, Canada: +1-416-238-0441> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call> FAX: +1-702-446-8012> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com> > -----Original Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> Dane Newman> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:45 AM> To: Luan Nguyen> Cc: Colin McNamara; Cisco certification> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nort!
el> > I don't know with cisco it's the self defending network how could I > ever trust a company that wants to put me out of a job> > Sent from my iPhone> > On Sep 10, 2008, at 12:30 PM, "Luan Nguyen" <luan@netcraftsmen.net> > wrote:> > > Cisco wants to remind people that if it's Cisco Powered Network, it > > could be> > run by toddlers :), which reminds me that I should get my 7 years > > old a> > Cisco router for his birthday instead of some Lego Bionicles.> >> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf > > Of> > Colin McNamara> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:21 PM> > Cc: 'Cisco certification'> > Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel> >> > If that would get them to stop using the "human network" I would be > > all in.> > I just don't get the point of having pictures of toddlers in slide > > decks> > while presenting to enterprise customers.....> >> > Joseph Brunner wrote:> >> :0)> >>> >> Great one man!> >>!
> >> That pretty much settles it!> >>> >> Cisco should use tha!
t as it
ad slogan!> >>> >>> >> "What has your network done for you lately?"> >>> >> Considering I'm consulting till the end of the year at Ogilvy & > >> Mather> > (who> >> has the Cisco account) I'll walk up stairs and ask them to use it!> >>> >> LOL> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On > >> Behalf Of> >> Anthony Faria> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:55 AM> >> To: Colin McNamara> >> Cc: Cisco certification> >> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel> >>> >> All I know is that it is Cisco that pays my bills. I think a lot of > >> us> > could> >> say the same. What has Nortel done for me lately LOL.> >>> >> Tony> >>> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Colin McNamara <Colin@2cups.com> > >> wrote:> >>> >>> >>> Does anybody want to get into a Ford vs Chevy debate while we are > >>> at it?> >>> Both companies are mature large cap investments. I think people > >>> would> >>> generally agree that Nortel's strength has mai!
nly been in carrier> >>>> >> equipment> >>> >>> and TDM PBX's. Cisco has always been heavy in the enterprise play > >>> (route> > /> >>> switch / voip / security), while participating in the carrier > >>> segments> >>>> >> also.> >>> >>> I think at the end of the day the discussion is not about what is > >>> better> >>>> >> or> >>> >>> faster, because with chipset releases, code upgrades that will > >>> always> >>> change. The question is, what is better for the customer. That can> >>> encompass, training, support, future proofing, end to end product> >>>> >> coverage.> >>> >>> In that aspect, I think Cisco has an edge.> >>>> >>> But, thats just my opinion.> >>>> >>> --> >>> Colin McNamara> >>> (858)208-8105> >>> CCIE #18233,RHCE,GCIH http://www.colinmcnamara.com> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/colinmcnamara> >>>> >>> "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little> >>> longer"> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Joseph Brunner wrote:> >>>> >>>> >>>> And if you look at!
Cisco's Stock Price it has a steady rate of > >>>> growth.> >!
>>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Really?> >>>> So much for that analyst job at Goldman Zacks> >>>>> >>>> http://finance.google.com/finance?q=csco> >>>>> >>>> hit "5yr" its been pretty flat the whole decade. Cisco is a mature> >>>> company.> >>>> Nortel is a mature company also, but with less marketing and bad> >>>> management.> >>>>> >>>> Both of these companies together are in a very flat, slow growth> >>>>> >> industry.> >>> >>>> Apple computer makes toys for people with credit cards who don't > >>>> like> >>>> saving> >>>> money like IPOD's and Mac books;> >>>>> >>>> Cisco makes network technology that powers business and government> >>>> communication networks.> >>>>> >>>> Cisco was once a $500B company. It has yet to recover from the .com> > bust.> >>>> So in a way Cisco's shareholders didn't benefit from the > >>>> 2002-2006 stock> >>>> market recovery much, if at all.> >>>>> >>>> Crox was a better stock ;) (and they are more comfortable too!)> >>>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>> From!
: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On > >>>> Behalf Of> >>>> Christopher Copley> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:09 AM> >>>> To: Muhammad Nasim> >>>> Cc: Ina&Laurean; Bill Eyer; Brad Ellis; Cisco certification> >>>> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel> >>>>> >>>> Group,> >>>>> >>>> This may be very OT, but if you look at Nortel Stock price it is > >>>> in a> >>>>> >> nose> >>> >>>> dive. And if you look at Cisco's Stock Price it has a steady > >>>> rate of> >>>> growth. Technology aside, why trust your network in the hands of a> >>>> company> >>>> that looks like it is bleeding money(and failing) like dropped > >>>> packets> >>>> from> >>>> a firewall? Now this is coming from a business perspective and > >>>> not a> >>>> technology perspective, but I would rather trust my network to a> >>>> company/vender that looks like it will still be here in 2010! I > >>>> have> >>>>> >> read> >>> >>>> nothing but bad things in the investment realm on the q!
uality of > >>>> Nortel> >>>>> >> as> >>> >>>> a> >>>> viable !
company
to invest in. So again, why trust your network to > >>>> any> >>>> thing> >>>> with a Nortel sticker on it?> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________________________________> > > >>>> Subscription information may be found at:> >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________________________________> > > >>>> Subscription information may be found at:> >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> >>>>> >>>>> >>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________________________________> > > >>> Subscription information may be found at:> >>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> >>>> >>> >>> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net> >>> >>> _____________________________________________________!
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