From: CCIEin2006 (ciscocciein2006@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Sep 11 2008 - 12:29:06 ART
Thanks Brad, now I need to RMA my underpants!
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> I just tested the "self-defending" hypothesis. I hit my 2811 ISR router
> with a hammer. It didn't defend itself. Now I have to open a TAC case.
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Dane Newman
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:45 AM
> To: Luan Nguyen
> Cc: Colin McNamara; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
>
> I don't know with cisco it's the self defending network how could I
> ever trust a company that wants to put me out of a job
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 10, 2008, at 12:30 PM, "Luan Nguyen" <luan@netcraftsmen.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Cisco wants to remind people that if it's Cisco Powered Network, it
> > could be
> > run by toddlers :), which reminds me that I should get my 7 years
> > old a
> > Cisco router for his birthday instead of some Lego Bionicles.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > Colin McNamara
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:21 PM
> > Cc: 'Cisco certification'
> > Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
> >
> > If that would get them to stop using the "human network" I would be
> > all in.
> > I just don't get the point of having pictures of toddlers in slide
> > decks
> > while presenting to enterprise customers.....
> >
> > Joseph Brunner wrote:
> >> :0)
> >>
> >> Great one man!
> >>
> >> That pretty much settles it!
> >>
> >> Cisco should use that as it ad slogan!
> >>
> >>
> >> "What has your network done for you lately?"
> >>
> >> Considering I'm consulting till the end of the year at Ogilvy &
> >> Mather
> > (who
> >> has the Cisco account) I'll walk up stairs and ask them to use it!
> >>
> >> LOL
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> >> Behalf Of
> >> Anthony Faria
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:55 AM
> >> To: Colin McNamara
> >> Cc: Cisco certification
> >> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
> >>
> >> All I know is that it is Cisco that pays my bills. I think a lot of
> >> us
> > could
> >> say the same. What has Nortel done for me lately LOL.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Colin McNamara <Colin@2cups.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Does anybody want to get into a Ford vs Chevy debate while we are
> >>> at it?
> >>> Both companies are mature large cap investments. I think people
> >>> would
> >>> generally agree that Nortel's strength has mainly been in carrier
> >>>
> >> equipment
> >>
> >>> and TDM PBX's. Cisco has always been heavy in the enterprise play
> >>> (route
> > /
> >>> switch / voip / security), while participating in the carrier
> >>> segments
> >>>
> >> also.
> >>
> >>> I think at the end of the day the discussion is not about what is
> >>> better
> >>>
> >> or
> >>
> >>> faster, because with chipset releases, code upgrades that will
> >>> always
> >>> change. The question is, what is better for the customer. That can
> >>> encompass, training, support, future proofing, end to end product
> >>>
> >> coverage.
> >>
> >>> In that aspect, I think Cisco has an edge.
> >>>
> >>> But, thats just my opinion.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Colin McNamara
> >>> (858)208-8105
> >>> CCIE #18233,RHCE,GCIH http://www.colinmcnamara.com
> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/colinmcnamara
> >>>
> >>> "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little
> >>> longer"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Joseph Brunner wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> And if you look at Cisco's Stock Price it has a steady rate of
> >>>> growth.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Really?
> >>>> So much for that analyst job at Goldman Zacks
> >>>>
> >>>> http://finance.google.com/finance?q=csco
> >>>>
> >>>> hit "5yr" its been pretty flat the whole decade. Cisco is a mature
> >>>> company.
> >>>> Nortel is a mature company also, but with less marketing and bad
> >>>> management.
> >>>>
> >>>> Both of these companies together are in a very flat, slow growth
> >>>>
> >> industry.
> >>
> >>>> Apple computer makes toys for people with credit cards who don't
> >>>> like
> >>>> saving
> >>>> money like IPOD's and Mac books;
> >>>>
> >>>> Cisco makes network technology that powers business and government
> >>>> communication networks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cisco was once a $500B company. It has yet to recover from the .com
> > bust.
> >>>> So in a way Cisco's shareholders didn't benefit from the
> >>>> 2002-2006 stock
> >>>> market recovery much, if at all.
> >>>>
> >>>> Crox was a better stock ;) (and they are more comfortable too!)
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> >>>> Behalf Of
> >>>> Christopher Copley
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:09 AM
> >>>> To: Muhammad Nasim
> >>>> Cc: Ina&Laurean; Bill Eyer; Brad Ellis; Cisco certification
> >>>> Subject: Re: OT: Cisco vs. Nortel
> >>>>
> >>>> Group,
> >>>>
> >>>> This may be very OT, but if you look at Nortel Stock price it is
> >>>> in a
> >>>>
> >> nose
> >>
> >>>> dive. And if you look at Cisco's Stock Price it has a steady
> >>>> rate of
> >>>> growth. Technology aside, why trust your network in the hands of a
> >>>> company
> >>>> that looks like it is bleeding money(and failing) like dropped
> >>>> packets
> >>>> from
> >>>> a firewall? Now this is coming from a business perspective and
> >>>> not a
> >>>> technology perspective, but I would rather trust my network to a
> >>>> company/vender that looks like it will still be here in 2010! I
> >>>> have
> >>>>
> >> read
> >>
> >>>> nothing but bad things in the investment realm on the quality of
> >>>> Nortel
> >>>>
> >> as
> >>
> >>>> a
> >>>> viable company to invest in. So again, why trust your network to
> >>>> any
> >>>> thing
> >>>> with a Nortel sticker on it?
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> > --
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> > (858)208-8105
> > CCIE #18233,RHCE,GCIH
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