From: Shahid Ansari (shahid1357@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Aug 31 2008 - 15:22:21 ART
By the way Scott which Vendor is Best [IPExpert : ( ] OR
[ InternetworkExpert : ) ] ?
You must Answer ......
Thanks
Shahid
On 8/31/08, Scott Morris <smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>
> I see your point there, but don't necessarily agree.... I will absolutely
> agree that people need to have some flavor of real-life experience to go
> along with this, otherwise too many things just don't make sense...
>
> On the same notion though, the CCIE isn't about real life! It's about
> technologies. And you'll learn more details (generally speaking) about
> those in vendor's workbooks and bootcamps than you will with several years
> on live networks.
>
> That's just because we have different focusses in real life versus in lab
> exams! But real life experience should give us the perspective on things
> as
> we move forward!
>
> Either way, though, the key is that the CCIE number is not the END of the
> journey! I still remember walking out of the lab up in Halifax (closed
> now) on a nice, sunny day, having just received my number.... I walked
> across the street to a park and just laid down staring up at the sky. And
> the biggest thing I remember is thinking about all the things I knew and
> realizing "damn, there's even more stuff I don't know!".
>
> CCIE is but a pit-stop on our technical journey! Vendors and bootcamps
> cannot possibly teach you everything!
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Muhammad Nasim
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:12 AM
> To: Wes Stevens
> Cc: Hobbs; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: set password
>
> It is due to easiness of passing the lab and availability of the Dynampis
> and the most NEGATIVE thing is to ONLY AND ONLY FOCUS ON VENDOR WORKBOOKS
> AND BOOTCAMP in order to get the NUMBER.
>
>
> No offense intended to vendors and candidates.
>
>
>
> 2008/8/31 Wes Stevens <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>
>
> > I was active on this list 6 year ago before I sat the lab. I have been
> > watching on and off since and helping when time permits. The list goes
> > in cycles. Right now it is out of focus. Way too many questions that
> > are not CCIE quality. Most companys force the use of a special
> > character in passwords - any of the 100 or so network ops guys where I
> > work could tell you how to do it.
> > For me that is a CCNA question - not IE. If you have passed the
> > written - a prerequisite for this list - you should know it.
> >
> > If you are serious about
> > your studies this list should be important to you. If it is important
> > keeping it focused on discussions that will help you pass the lab
> > should also be important. These days there are a lot more CCNA
> > questions and off topics then ones that really help.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Hobbs
> > <deadheadblues@gmail.com>
> > To: Wes Stevens <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>
> > Cc:
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:08:43 AM
> > Subject: Re:
> > set password
> >
> >
> > "Still don't think it is a ccie study question"
> >
> > Talk about a
> > poor sport! Section I-B of the blueprint includes...VTP...hmmm...
> >
> > I would
> > think that includes how to set a vtp password, with the particular
> > caveat of setting one with a question mark. I didn't know that one
> > until I started studying for the lab (which was before I took the
> > written by the way).
> >
> > The
> > topic of his post was not "Have I taken the written yet and/or your
> > concerns on whether I have" so stop trying to change it to that. Maybe
> > you should start a separate chain for your ad hominems.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Wes
> > Stevens <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I saw the quotes around the "?".
> > Still don't think it is a ccie study question. No one even bothers to
> > search
> > the cisco site before they email the list. We have a lot of off topic and
> > and
> > questions that belong on the general list not here, and not much studying
> > going on....
> >
> > Still did not answer my question - has he passed the written?
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Hobbs <deadheadblues@gmail.com>
> > To: David
> > Lonnie <david.lonnie@gmail.com>
> >
> > Cc: ratm <cancanucho@gmail.com>; Michael
> > Jones <majonestx@gmail.com>; itguy.pro@gmail.com; Wes Stevens
> > <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>; "ccielab@groupstudy.com"
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:38:31 PM
> > Subject:
> > Re: set password
> >
> >
> > HAHA. all you guys got owned. He was asking how to use the
> > ? in the password. I think that's a legitimate question. HAHAHA.
> >
> > don't take
> > it personal, i just thought it was funny!
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:56 PM,
> > David Lonnie <david.lonnie@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,ratm.
> >
> > Right, only you got
> > the correct answer.
> >
> >
> > David.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:03 AM, ratm
> > <cancanucho@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > hi david
> > >
> > > In order to enter the question
> > mark as a character and not a calling IOS
> > > help you have to use the sequence:
> > Ctrl+v and then enter the question mark,
> > > then enter the remaining characters
> > >
> > > vtp password cisco CTRL+v ?
> > >
> > > I really hope you were asking this... :-)
> > >
> > > br
> > > ruben
> > >
> > > 2008/8/31 Michael Jones <majonestx@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > wtF lol
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 6:35 PM, <itguy.pro@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > And which country did you pass your ccie?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Sent via BlackBerry
> > from T-Mobile
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Wes Stevens
> > <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>
> > >> >
> > >> > Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:30:21
> > >> >
> > To: David Lonnie<david.lonnie@gmail.com>; ccielab@groupstudy.com<
> > >> >
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > >> > Subject: Re: set password
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > When and
> > how did you pass your ccie written?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ----- Original Message
> > ----
> > >> > From: David Lonnie <david.lonnie@gmail.com>
> > >> > To:
> > "ccielab@groupstudy.com" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > >> > Sent: Saturday, August
> > 30, 2008 6:13:24 PM
> > >> > Subject: set password
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi,experts.
> > >> > can
> > some guys tell me , how to set vtp password "cisco?" ?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > David
> > >> >
> > >> >
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