From: Haloween Boy (ciscob20@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jul 27 2008 - 05:04:23 ART
Recently it has been noticed that a partner hires a candidates with lots of
promises and fails the same once the CCIE number is associated with the
partner.
Many partners who are looking forward to upgrading to silver/gold are doing
such mal-practices. Few even hired and later on denied the bonus or revised
the salary !!
I would suggest to join a Gold partner rather then one which is looking for
upgrading through your CCIE #
Regards,
H B
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Ajay V m <ajayvm@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately as per Cisco rule if you don't have the NOC you will have to
> wait for a year after the date of release from the previous partner.Anyway
> if the partner terminates the CCIE and the CCIE has his termination letter
> then he can do it without a NOC but again the lead time to replace the CCIE
> for the partner will reduce.So in short if u want to move from 1 partner to
> another u have to get a NOC or you should be terminated from employment by
> the previous partner and u should have the termination letter to submit to
> Cisco.
>
> But personally I think this whole CCIE rule should be revised earlier it
> was t6 months they changed it to a year now.CCIEs should have the freedom
> to
> chosse where to work without issues and now a CCIE leaving the company must
> not affect the operations of a partner as the CCIEs have increased in
> number
> over the years its easy for the compnany to get another 1.- Show quoted
> text
> -
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Monica Belluci <mpls1979@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Suppose that company dont give NOC what to do ?
> > should cisco support for that to release ID and what I know till 1 year
> he
> > can not use his number .
> > did any one has any real experience like that ???
> >
> > Monica
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Muhammad Nasim <
> muhammad.nasim@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Good point now I got it once you got the NOC and u associated with new
> >> employer and your new company apply for CISCO SILVER OR GOLD. The audit
> >> team
> >> will come and review and at that time you can show the NOC to the audit
> >> team
> >> and that's it.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> 2008/7/24 Ajay V m <ajayvm@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> > Guys the answer is very simple.
> >> > Login with the CCO id u have clubbed ur CCIE and go to partner self
> >> > services.Di associate your ID.And when you leave the company get an
> CCIE
> >> > NOC
> >> > from them.
> >> > When you join a new partner you just have to show the CCIE NOC to the
> >> cisco
> >> > audit team and get yourself associated with new company
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ,.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Craig Tompkins <sidalo@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > It should be noted that the web site, according to it's initial
> pages,
> >> > have
> >> > > migrated away from saying that they are specifically just renting
> >> > > certification associations, and that they now focus on filling full
> >> time
> >> > > positions with certified personnel.
> >> > >
> >> > > That could be a public facing workaround or a legitimate change.
> >> Either
> >> > > way
> >> > > it says what you need to know about the practice. You will also see
> a
> >> > good
> >> > > amount of debate on this if you search through the GS archives.
> >> > >
> >> > > From the website:
> >> > > What happened to our rental certification program?
> >> > >
> >> > > In order to provide better service to our clients, we are now
> focused
> >> > 100%
> >> > > on full-time W-2 and 1099 recruitment.
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Craig Tompkins
> >> > > CCIE #16921
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:28 PM, ricardo martinez <
> rolmos24@yahoo.com
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > hi group,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > i friend of mine just asked me a question regarding something
> >> similar
> >> > > like
> >> > > > this, he found the following link regarding binding your cert to
> >> > another
> >> > > > company that you dont work for... this is just for usa and we are
> >> not
> >> > > there
> >> > > > so my answer was simple, "forget it"... but in curious about all
> >> your
> >> > > > opinion about this... is this possible? what does cisco think
> about
> >> > this?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > http://www.rentacert.com/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > what do you think??.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> _______________________________________________________________________
> >> > > Subscription information may be found at:
> >> > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks And Regards
> >> >
> >> > Ajay.V.M
> >> >
> >> > " Remember that the Diamond is just another piece of Coal which did
> well
> >> > under Pressure .."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> _______________________________________________________________________
> >> > Subscription information may be found at:
> >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Muhammad Nasim
> >> Network Engineer
> >> Saudi Arabia
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________________________________
> >> Subscription information may be found at:
> >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks And Regards
>
> Ajay.V.M
>
> " Remember that the Diamond is just another piece of Coal which did well
> under Pressure .."
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Monica Belluci <mpls1979@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Suppose that company dont give NOC what to do ?
> > should cisco support for that to release ID and what I know till 1 year
> he
> > can not use his number .
> > did any one has any real experience like that ???
> >
> > Monica
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Muhammad Nasim <
> muhammad.nasim@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Good point now I got it once you got the NOC and u associated with new
> >> employer and your new company apply for CISCO SILVER OR GOLD. The audit
> >> team
> >> will come and review and at that time you can show the NOC to the audit
> >> team
> >> and that's it.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> 2008/7/24 Ajay V m <ajayvm@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> > Guys the answer is very simple.
> >> > Login with the CCO id u have clubbed ur CCIE and go to partner self
> >> > services.Di associate your ID.And when you leave the company get an
> CCIE
> >> > NOC
> >> > from them.
> >> > When you join a new partner you just have to show the CCIE NOC to the
> >> cisco
> >> > audit team and get yourself associated with new company
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ,.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Craig Tompkins <sidalo@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > It should be noted that the web site, according to it's initial
> pages,
> >> > have
> >> > > migrated away from saying that they are specifically just renting
> >> > > certification associations, and that they now focus on filling full
> >> time
> >> > > positions with certified personnel.
> >> > >
> >> > > That could be a public facing workaround or a legitimate change.
> >> Either
> >> > > way
> >> > > it says what you need to know about the practice. You will also see
> a
> >> > good
> >> > > amount of debate on this if you search through the GS archives.
> >> > >
> >> > > From the website:
> >> > > What happened to our rental certification program?
> >> > >
> >> > > In order to provide better service to our clients, we are now
> focused
> >> > 100%
> >> > > on full-time W-2 and 1099 recruitment.
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Craig Tompkins
> >> > > CCIE #16921
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:28 PM, ricardo martinez <
> rolmos24@yahoo.com
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > hi group,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > i friend of mine just asked me a question regarding something
> >> similar
> >> > > like
> >> > > > this, he found the following link regarding binding your cert to
> >> > another
> >> > > > company that you dont work for... this is just for usa and we are
> >> not
> >> > > there
> >> > > > so my answer was simple, "forget it"... but in curious about all
> >> your
> >> > > > opinion about this... is this possible? what does cisco think
> about
> >> > this?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > http://www.rentacert.com/
> >> > > >
> >> > > > what do you think??.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> _______________________________________________________________________
> >> > > Subscription information may be found at:
> >> > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks And Regards
> >> >
> >> > Ajay.V.M
> >> >
> >> > " Remember that the Diamond is just another piece of Coal which did
> well
> >> > under Pressure .."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> _______________________________________________________________________
> >> > Subscription information may be found at:
> >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Muhammad Nasim
> >> Network Engineer
> >> Saudi Arabia
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________________________________
> >> Subscription information may be found at:
> >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks And Regards
>
> Ajay.V.M
>
> " Remember that the Diamond is just another piece of Coal which did well
> under Pressure .."
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