Re: VTP

From: akyccie (akyccie@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jul 13 2008 - 07:52:28 ART


This is what is mentioned in the DOC CD. So VTP trnasport mode and configure
the different domain is the ans to this.

VTP Transport mode
transparent Place the switch in VTP transparent mode. A switch in VTP
transparent
mode is disabled for VTP, does not send advertisements or learn from
advertisements sent by other devices, and cannot affect VLAN
configurations on other devices in the network. The switch receives VTP
advertisements and forwards them on all trunk ports except the one on which
the advertisement was received.
When VTP mode is transparent, the mode and domain name are saved in the
switch running configuration file, and you can save them in the switch
startup configuration file by entering the copy running-config startup
config privileged EXEC command.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Jason Madsen
  To: paul cosgrove
  Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com ; akyccie@gmail.com
  Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:36 AM
  Subject: Re: VTP

  sounds good to me.

  On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:03 PM, paul cosgrove <paul.cosgrove@gmail.com>
wrote:

    Hi Jason,

    A five octet PID may be equivalent to a 2 octet Ethertype when
OUI=00:00:00, but they are not the same for VTP, CDP etc, since their OUI is
set to the Cisco OUI and so all five octets of the PID are used. The values
you have listed are not the full PID values.

    There clearly is confusion about this, and I know that some sniffer
programs list the PID as being just the last two octets, but I do not see an
explanation for such a useage in IEEE 802-1990:-

    "5.3 Protocol Identifier
    5.3.1 Concept
    ...
    All SNAP PDUs contain a Protocol Identification Field. An organization
uses its OUI to identify, using a universal unique value, its own protocols.
    The protocol identifier is 40 bits in length....The first 24 bits of the
protocol identifier correspond to the OUI in exactly the same fashion as in
48-bit LAN MAC addresses. The remaining 16 bits are locally administered by
the assignee."

    "5.3.2 Represention of a Protocol Identifier.
    The protocol identifier is represented as a string of five octets
separated by hyphens. The octets are displayed left to right in the order
they are transmitted on the LAN medium. Each octet is displayed as two
hexadecimal digits. The M bit of the first octet is the first bit of the
Organizationally Unique Identifier and is the least significant."

    Paul.

    On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Jason Madsen <madsen.jason@gmail.com>
wrote:

      I think ethertype and PID are essentially one in the same. It just
depends on which source you reference. In MACLs they use the term ethertype,
but in packet captures the actual value is the PID (protocol ID). At least
they seem to directly coincide:

      VTP 0x2003
      CDP 0x2000
      DTP 0x2004
      UDLD 0x0111

      ...but great write ups you provided. i think aky is about a blocking
VTP kind of person as any now:-)

      Jason

      On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:05 PM, paul cosgrove <paul.cosgrove@gmail.com>
wrote:

        MAC acls can be used to stop VTP being received, they cannot be used
to
        stop advertisements being sent; vtp transparent mode will do that for
you. In later versions of IOS there is also a "vtp mode off" command.

        The (ether)type values can be used to differentiate the protocols.
You
        cannot match the PID, only the (ether) type part of it.

        You can find a discussion about this including examples of MAC ACLs
here:-
        http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/2008-April/050185.html

        Paul.

        Jason Madsen wrote:
> to be further specific you could block it by it's PID, which is
0x2003,
> along with 01:00:0C:CC:CC:CC. CDP's is 0x2000 etc.
>
> Jason
>
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Jason Madsen
<madsen.jason@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> hmmmm, that's a good one. of course vtp mode transparent may
prevent the
>> device from participating in vtp (especially VTP v1), but to
actually block
>> it is another thing. i believe you could use a MACL and block
01:00:0C:CC:CC:CC,
>> but i also believe that CDP, UDLD, DTP, and PAGP also use this
address so
>> you might have to look at the implications of doing such a thing.
you might
>> want to use different VTP domain names to further prevent
compatibility
>> between the systems, although that could be considered overkill.
>>
>> just some thoughts,
>> Jason
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 12:12 PM, akyccie <akyccie@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>>
>>> How to block VTP advertisement ???
>>>
>>>
>>>



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