From: Jonny English (redkidneybeans@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Jul 12 2008 - 03:02:33 ART
Its hard to tell when you serious Joe :)
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
wrote:
> I'm joking...
>
> I'm going to School to get an MBA. Cisco doesn't pay enough money to live
> anymore...
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Wes
> Stevens
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:32 PM
> To: Joseph Brunner; Marko Milivojevic; GS CCIE-Lab
> Subject: Re: CCDE Practical Exam
>
> You are still missing the point. It is still just a MS cert.
> But go for it. Let us know how it works out for you...
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> To: Wes Stevens <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>; Marko Milivojevic
> <markom@markom.info>; GS CCIE-Lab <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:14:06 PM
> Subject: RE: CCDE Practical Exam
>
> Nope. I donb t think you have read just the REVIEW phase of the candidate;
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/architect/technology/reviewboard/defau
> lt.mspx
>
> Never mind the grueling 6 weeks at Redmond in the lab phases, and final
> candidate assessment.
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/architect/technology/howto/default.msp
> x
>
>
> Imagine you and me working 6 weeks at Cisco with Russ White and Dr.
> Parkhurst?
>
> Cisco needs to spend more time on assessing the people they consider
> worthy,
> and more time assessing their ability to deploy and develop customer
> solutions... rather seeing who can fire macro's into dynamips to sh ip os
> ne
> sh ip bg su, etc.
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wes Stevens [mailto:wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:04 PM
> To: Joseph Brunner; Marko Milivojevic; GS CCIE-Lab
> Subject: Re: CCDE Practical Exam
>
> It is still just a MS cert. It only says you can point and click a MS
> install like millions of others out there.
> After you spend all that time and money there will be no payback in money
> or
> job security.....
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> To: Marko Milivojevic <markom@markom.info>; GS CCIE-Lab
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:14:03 PM
> Subject: RE: CCDE Practical Exam
>
> FYI;
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/architect/default.mspx
>
> The CCIE/CCDE is not a failed program; It is a program that accepts
> failures.
>
> I think the MCA is the new bar. Cisco you are notified. Make the CCMA
> grueling HELL. Make it 10x hard physically, so no fat slobs can pass it.
> Make it 48 hours of non-stop configs, documentation, and testing using
> servers, software, routers, switches, trace files, C#, SQL queries, shell
> scripting, anything else you can throw on there...
>
> When I spend 1 year / 16 hours a day getting it and I'm 30 then and SINGLE,
> I want to be one of the only people in the world who has it...
>
> ;)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Marko Milivojevic
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 3:44 PM
> To: GS CCIE-Lab
> Subject: Re: CCDE Practical Exam
>
> Please note that test is delivered in VUE professional testing centres
> -- not all VUE test centers! According to Cisco guys, these centers
> are where lawyers/doctors/etc. take their professional tests.
>
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 19:29, Luan M Nguyen <luan@t3technology.com>
> wrote:
> > I am going to profit big time from this.B I have a plan!
> > I will open a top secret VUE center where the CCDE will be conducted. I
> then
> > will print screen all the questions and hire some experts with Scott
> Morris
> > caliber to answer all the questions...and share the profits :)...piece of
> > cake!
> > Any big wigs signed up for the beta yet i wonder?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Muhammad Nasim
> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 3:09 PM
> > To: Colin McNamara
> > Cc: Scott Morris; Marko Milivojevic; GS CCIE-Lab
> > Subject: Re: CCDE Practical Exam
> >
> > Flash based Exam sound interesting but vulnerable to PASS4SURE time of
> > things if conducted in Pearson
>
>
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