From: John Wayne (john.wayne.ccie@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Jul 12 2008 - 10:10:48 ART
Joes is one of the highest paid ccie's on the list and he can't afford it
any more as a ccie. I guess everyone else is really hurting.
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Its hard to tell when you serious Joe :)
>
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm joking...
> >
> > I'm going to School to get an MBA. Cisco doesn't pay enough money to live
> > anymore...
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Wes
> > Stevens
> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:32 PM
> > To: Joseph Brunner; Marko Milivojevic; GS CCIE-Lab
> > Subject: Re: CCDE Practical Exam
> >
> > You are still missing the point. It is still just a MS cert.
> > But go for it. Let us know how it works out for you...
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > To: Wes Stevens <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>; Marko Milivojevic
> > <markom@markom.info>; GS CCIE-Lab <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:14:06 PM
> > Subject: RE: CCDE Practical Exam
> >
> > Nope. I donb t think you have read just the REVIEW phase of the
> candidate;
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/architect/technology/reviewboard/defau
> > lt.mspx
> >
> > Never mind the grueling 6 weeks at Redmond in the lab phases, and final
> > candidate assessment.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/architect/technology/howto/default.msp
> > x
> >
> >
> > Imagine you and me working 6 weeks at Cisco with Russ White and Dr.
> > Parkhurst?
> >
> > Cisco needs to spend more time on assessing the people they consider
> > worthy,
> > and more time assessing their ability to deploy and develop customer
> > solutions... rather seeing who can fire macro's into dynamips to sh ip os
> > ne
> > sh ip bg su, etc.
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wes Stevens [mailto:wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:04 PM
> > To: Joseph Brunner; Marko Milivojevic; GS CCIE-Lab
> > Subject: Re: CCDE Practical Exam
> >
> > It is still just a MS cert. It only says you can point and click a MS
> > install like millions of others out there.
> > After you spend all that time and money there will be no payback in money
> > or
> > job security.....
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > To: Marko Milivojevic <markom@markom.info>; GS CCIE-Lab
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:14:03 PM
> > Subject: RE: CCDE Practical Exam
> >
> > FYI;
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/architect/default.mspx
> >
> > The CCIE/CCDE is not a failed program; It is a program that accepts
> > failures.
> >
> > I think the MCA is the new bar. Cisco you are notified. Make the CCMA
> > grueling HELL. Make it 10x hard physically, so no fat slobs can pass it.
> > Make it 48 hours of non-stop configs, documentation, and testing using
> > servers, software, routers, switches, trace files, C#, SQL queries, shell
> > scripting, anything else you can throw on there...
> >
> > When I spend 1 year / 16 hours a day getting it and I'm 30 then and
> SINGLE,
> > I want to be one of the only people in the world who has it...
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Marko Milivojevic
> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 3:44 PM
> > To: GS CCIE-Lab
> > Subject: Re: CCDE Practical Exam
> >
> > Please note that test is delivered in VUE professional testing centres
> > -- not all VUE test centers! According to Cisco guys, these centers
> > are where lawyers/doctors/etc. take their professional tests.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 19:29, Luan M Nguyen <luan@t3technology.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I am going to profit big time from this.B I have a plan!
> > > I will open a top secret VUE center where the CCDE will be conducted. I
> > then
> > > will print screen all the questions and hire some experts with Scott
> > Morris
> > > caliber to answer all the questions...and share the profits :)...piece
> of
> > > cake!
> > > Any big wigs signed up for the beta yet i wonder?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Muhammad Nasim
> > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 3:09 PM
> > > To: Colin McNamara
> > > Cc: Scott Morris; Marko Milivojevic; GS CCIE-Lab
> > > Subject: Re: CCDE Practical Exam
> > >
> > > Flash based Exam sound interesting but vulnerable to PASS4SURE time of
> > > things if conducted in Pearson
> >
> >
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