From: Azher (azheramin@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 30 2008 - 22:09:59 ART
Congratulations ............. We already knew that :)
-Azher
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Hoogen <hoogen82@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am still single.. do any of the vendors offer a bootcamp to teach all
> that.. that sounds tougher to do list than doing a CCIE.
>
> Bet you took more than 4 hrs to do that.. and even after 4 hrs you must
> have
> failed.. :)
>
> Congrats on your number though :)
>
> -Hoogen
> #14731
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Dale Kling <dalek77@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You're not lying,
> >
> > Here's the start of the Honey-do-list I received by my wife:
> >
> > - Fix hole in wall
> > - Fix crooked door
> > - fix alum. wrapping on flashing around garage that blew off during storm
> > - Replace warped deck boards, sand deck and restain (800 sq foot
> deck,it's
> > going to suck badly)
> > - pressure wash house, fence, driveway, seal fence and driveway
> > - put new seal around exterior facing doors
> > - mulch about 3000 sq feet of flower gardens that have overgrown with
> weeds
> > as well now too
> > - install new zone in sprinkler system
> > - buy new 1080p tv and find time to enjoy it.
> > - study for SP
> >
> > ugh,
> >
> > I think I was better off studying......
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:28 PM, keith tokash <ktokash@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Awesome. Sometimes while studying it sounded easy when people got
> their
> > > number in a few months (which makes you wonder why it's not easy for
> > > you...).
> > > You did a good job conveying that you did in fact bleed for the digits.
> > > Now
> > > comes the fun part, where you start getting bashed in the head by all
> of
> > > the
> > > things you put off to study. :)
> > >
> > >
> > > The information in this e-mail is intended for the
> > > attention and use of the everyone in the world, or I wouldn't have sent
> > it
> > > in
> > > an unencrypted email. This message or any part thereof can and should
> be
> > > disclosed, copied, distributed and retained by any person without
> > > authorization from the addressee. Furthermore, I reserve the right to
> > > disclose, copy, distribute and retain anything anyone sends *me* via
> > email,
> > > up
> > > to and including putting the exact text in a MySpace bulletin.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:52:53 -0400
> > > > From: dalek77@gmail.com
> > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Subject: Damn, I finished the lab in 4 hours and had 4 hours to
> verify
> > > and
> > > I still didn't...........
> > > >
> > > > get served that coffee Brian Dennis was talking about. At least I
> got
> > my
> > > > number on my first attempt though, 21330 baby!
> > > > BTW, never ever ever take your lab on Friday, the wait was worse then
> > the
> > > > night before christmas as a kid! I didn't get my results until I
> woke
> > up
> > > > this morning and have been on edge with people all weekend.
> > > >
> > > > Some people already know me from class and know my story. I began
> > > studying
> > > > because of all the paper CCNPs out there, especially my work. Now I
> > have
> > > > nothing against CCNPs or any paper certs if you did it the right way,
> > but
> > > > what pissed me off is that our employer thought this other guy was as
> > > > qualified as me because he got his CCNP and this guy announced
> himself
> > as
> > > a
> > > > Senior Engineer. Well this schmuck took two days to get an SVI on a
> Cat
> > > 3750
> > > > up and just started networking about a year ago. While I worked hard
> > for
> > > > mine and have recertified it twice over the past 7 years now, he got
> > his
> > > in
> > > > weeks with you know what...... Pretty blatant about it as well as
> they
> > > > passed them around work talking about how they can get CCNP in just a
> > few
> > > > weeks. These guys blow and I wish Cisco would do something about
> their
> > > > testing system.
> > > >
> > > > In any case, I got mad, I mean really mad that nobody could see
> through
> > > the
> > > > charade of these fake qualified network engineers. February of this
> > year
> > > I
> > > > had enough and I knew there was only one thing to do. Get something
> > that
> > > > they couldn't get or at least they would have to work real hard to
> get
> > > and
> > > > based on their work ethic, I doubt they would ever get it, the CCIE.
> I
> > > > worked my @$$ off since I got the materials end of February, and by
> the
> > > > grace of GOD and my lovely wife I was able to get my number in RTP on
> > > June
> > > > 27th. I pretty much shut my family off for the last 4 months, while
> my
> > > wife
> > > > took care of everything, the kids, the house, the dogs...... To give
> > > > everyone an idea of the hours I put in.... I worked 40 hours a week,
> I
> > > > studied everyday after work, from 6 pm to 2 am labbing and 12-15
> hours
> > > each
> > > > day on the weekends. I took one day off and that was Mothers day and
> > > then
> > > I
> > > > attended InternetworkExperts 12 day bootcamp. I actually finished
> > their
> > > > bootcamp material by the 3rd day of the bootcamp and Brian Dennis and
> > > > company was nice enough to let me mock lab the rest of the days I was
> > > > there. The InternetworkExpert bootcamp was nice to get away for 12
> > days
> > > > and lab for about 12-15 hours a day. I went outside once the entire
> > > time
> > > I
> > > > was there and that was for a 5 min walk to look at the pool and I
> > didn't
> > > > turn on my tv once. I probably squeezed in about 3 weeks of lab time
> > in
> > > 2
> > > > weeks of time. In essence, I was driven to get the CCIE from start
> to
> > > > finish in about 4 months. Granted I have about 8 years Cisco
> > experience,
> > > > but it hasn't been hands on everyday the past 3-4 years because I
> work
> > in
> > > a
> > > > lab environment now and no longer do operational support, thank god
> for
> > > that
> > > > too.
> > > >
> > > > It was a hard road, and there was many times I kept telling myself
> this
> > > is
> > > > too hard and will I never get there. However, I kept telling myself
> as
> > > long
> > > > as I keep studying and as long as I keep labbing I will always learn
> > > > something and will get closer. You might think I'm crazy, but I had
> a
> > > goal
> > > > and my wife said go for it. As I've said in previous posts, my
> > > motivattion
> > > > was not money, but to gain the knowledge these other guys didn't have
> > and
> > > to
> > > > achieve CCIE status, something most of these paper certifiers won't
> > ever
> > > > get. I have to say that I must thank these guys at work for the
> > > > motivation, and I will today when I go in to work in 2 hours after I
> > get
> > > my
> > > > Cisco polos embroidered with the CCIE logo and install an LED behind
> > it.
> > > :P
> > > > Seriously though, they gave me that spark that I was missing for
> years
> > > and
> > > > passing this lab attempt has ignited it even more. Now if you've
> > managed
> > > to
> > > > endure the past few paragraphs of blah, all you first time CCIE
> > > candidates
> > > > enjoy my recommendations, which you've all heard time and time again
> > I'm
> > > > sure.
> > > >
> > > > Study the Core, lab the Core until your fingers bleed. Get your Core
> > > down
> > > > to at least 3 hours or less. InternetwokExpert WB3 labs are awesome
> > for
> > > > this, I got those down to 2 hours or less, some of the hard ones took
> 2
> > > 1/2
> > > > hours. Speed and time management was huge for me. I probably put in
> > > about
> > > > 500 hours of harcore lab time the last 4 months. I initially started
> > > > InternetworkExperts WB2 doing labs in like 10 hours, learning and
> > > > understanding the theory behind things. They were tough at first,
> but
> > I
> > > > constantly would go back and reread the DOCCD and reference all my
> > books,
> > > I
> > > > have ton of books. I watched their technologies COD 2 1/2 times in
> > it's
> > > > entirety. It took a lot of coffee and doing it hands on with them to
> > > stay
> > > > awake. Brian Dennis's jokes couldn't even keep me up anymore after
> the
> > > > first go around. ;) After a few months I started completing their
> labs
> > > in
> > > > entirety in about 4 hours. Once this happened, I would do them and
> > then
> > > > look up everything in the DOCCD, no matter if I knew it or not. This
> > was
> > > my
> > > > DOCCD familiarization stage. I actually picked that up from Scott
> > Morris
> > > > from somewhere I believe. Here it comes, you've heard it before, and
> > > you're
> > > > going to hear it again....
> > > >
> > > > KNOW YOUR DOCCD.. I guarantee you will get something in the lab that
> > you
> > > > haven't seen before. This is where speed on the CORE was essential
> for
> > > me.
> > > > By lunch I had completed the lab once over , ran my TCL script, and
> was
> > > > feeling a little uneasy still, but I had the meat done. I'm a
> paranoid
> > > guy,
> > > > you can ask others. The only thing left was verification and digging
> > in
> > > the
> > > > DOCCD for those few things I didn't know. I verified twice and each
> > time
> > > I
> > > > found one small mistake that would have cost me 2 or 3 points each.
> Oh
> > > and
> > > > by the way, I still don't know the answer to one of them weird
> > questions,
> > > > even now that I'm home and I have google, so here it comes, here it
> > comes
> > > > again, KNOW YOUR DOCCD. My last suggestion is make sure you know
> > theory
> > > > very well in the CORE IGP, well everything you learn really, but
> > > especially
> > > > your CORE. you've heard time and time again Switching, FR, and IGP
> > > probably
> > > > will be half your points. If you understand the mechanics and how
> > things
> > > > work, no matter what scenario you get you can work through it. If
> you
> > > > memorize the vendor WBs, it won't help in the real lab.
> > > >
> > > > So I guess I should recognize people and materials that have helped
> me.
> > > > First off, my wife and GOD. If I don't mention her first, she might
> > kill
> > > me
> > > > and probably the same about GOD... O_o Next, InternetworkExperts ver
> 4
> > > WBs
> > > > and their Technology COD. I have the Brians' voices engrained into
> my
> > > > head. Brian Dennis, Josh Finke and crew from InternetworkExpert were
> > > nice
> > > > enough to hook me up in the last hours. Also, IPExperts audio CD
> with
> > > Scott
> > > > Morris. I bought their WB package, but I only used the audio
> portion.
> > I
> > > > thought it was very good and I probably listened to it about 5 times
> in
> > > it's
> > > > entirety driving to and from work everyday. It was just an extra
> tool
> > to
> > > > feed my brain the knowledge it needed.
> > > >
> > > > I already have the materials from InternetworkExpert for the SP
> track
> > > and
> > > > will hit that at work starting this morning since this is what I do
> at
> > > work
> > > > everyday and my boss will let me study while I lab it up on our
> 7604s.
> > :)
> > > > MMM Knowledge, I think these guys at work turned me into an animal.
> > > Watch
> > > > your back Petr, I'm coming for your CCIEs and I'll probably pass up
> > Brian
> > > > Mcgahan in 6 months because he's a slacker. j/k man. ;)
> > > >
> > > > Good luck to all other CCIE candidates and I hope this email helps.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > Dale
> > > >
> > > > P.S. Don't unicast me for any NDA crap either, I'll turn your ass
> into
> > > > Cisco.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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