From: Dale Kling (dalek77@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 30 2008 - 22:11:58 ART
Hah, it's going to take me a month everyday after work to complete that.
Owning a house has it's pros and cons, that's for sure.
Dale
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Hoogen <hoogen82@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am still single.. do any of the vendors offer a bootcamp to teach all
> that.. that sounds tougher to do list than doing a CCIE.
>
> Bet you took more than 4 hrs to do that.. and even after 4 hrs you must
> have failed.. :)
>
> Congrats on your number though :)
>
> -Hoogen
> #14731
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Dale Kling <dalek77@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You're not lying,
>>
>> Here's the start of the Honey-do-list I received by my wife:
>>
>> - Fix hole in wall
>> - Fix crooked door
>> - fix alum. wrapping on flashing around garage that blew off during storm
>> - Replace warped deck boards, sand deck and restain (800 sq foot
>> deck,it's
>> going to suck badly)
>> - pressure wash house, fence, driveway, seal fence and driveway
>> - put new seal around exterior facing doors
>> - mulch about 3000 sq feet of flower gardens that have overgrown with
>> weeds
>> as well now too
>> - install new zone in sprinkler system
>> - buy new 1080p tv and find time to enjoy it.
>> - study for SP
>>
>> ugh,
>>
>> I think I was better off studying......
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:28 PM, keith tokash <ktokash@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Awesome. Sometimes while studying it sounded easy when people got their
>> > number in a few months (which makes you wonder why it's not easy for
>> > you...).
>> > You did a good job conveying that you did in fact bleed for the digits.
>> > Now
>> > comes the fun part, where you start getting bashed in the head by all of
>> > the
>> > things you put off to study. :)
>> >
>> >
>> > The information in this e-mail is intended for the
>> > attention and use of the everyone in the world, or I wouldn't have sent
>> it
>> > in
>> > an unencrypted email. This message or any part thereof can and should be
>> > disclosed, copied, distributed and retained by any person without
>> > authorization from the addressee. Furthermore, I reserve the right to
>> > disclose, copy, distribute and retain anything anyone sends *me* via
>> email,
>> > up
>> > to and including putting the exact text in a MySpace bulletin.
>> >
>> >
>> > > Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:52:53 -0400
>> > > From: dalek77@gmail.com
>> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > Subject: Damn, I finished the lab in 4 hours and had 4 hours to verify
>> > and
>> > I still didn't...........
>> > >
>> > > get served that coffee Brian Dennis was talking about. At least I got
>> my
>> > > number on my first attempt though, 21330 baby!
>> > > BTW, never ever ever take your lab on Friday, the wait was worse then
>> the
>> > > night before christmas as a kid! I didn't get my results until I woke
>> up
>> > > this morning and have been on edge with people all weekend.
>> > >
>> > > Some people already know me from class and know my story. I began
>> > studying
>> > > because of all the paper CCNPs out there, especially my work. Now I
>> have
>> > > nothing against CCNPs or any paper certs if you did it the right way,
>> but
>> > > what pissed me off is that our employer thought this other guy was as
>> > > qualified as me because he got his CCNP and this guy announced himself
>> as
>> > a
>> > > Senior Engineer. Well this schmuck took two days to get an SVI on a
>> Cat
>> > 3750
>> > > up and just started networking about a year ago. While I worked hard
>> for
>> > > mine and have recertified it twice over the past 7 years now, he got
>> his
>> > in
>> > > weeks with you know what...... Pretty blatant about it as well as
>> they
>> > > passed them around work talking about how they can get CCNP in just a
>> few
>> > > weeks. These guys blow and I wish Cisco would do something about
>> their
>> > > testing system.
>> > >
>> > > In any case, I got mad, I mean really mad that nobody could see
>> through
>> > the
>> > > charade of these fake qualified network engineers. February of this
>> year
>> > I
>> > > had enough and I knew there was only one thing to do. Get something
>> that
>> > > they couldn't get or at least they would have to work real hard to get
>> > and
>> > > based on their work ethic, I doubt they would ever get it, the CCIE.
>> I
>> > > worked my @$$ off since I got the materials end of February, and by
>> the
>> > > grace of GOD and my lovely wife I was able to get my number in RTP on
>> > June
>> > > 27th. I pretty much shut my family off for the last 4 months, while
>> my
>> > wife
>> > > took care of everything, the kids, the house, the dogs...... To give
>> > > everyone an idea of the hours I put in.... I worked 40 hours a week,
>> I
>> > > studied everyday after work, from 6 pm to 2 am labbing and 12-15
>> hours
>> > each
>> > > day on the weekends. I took one day off and that was Mothers day and
>> > then
>> > I
>> > > attended InternetworkExperts 12 day bootcamp. I actually finished
>> their
>> > > bootcamp material by the 3rd day of the bootcamp and Brian Dennis and
>> > > company was nice enough to let me mock lab the rest of the days I was
>> > > there. The InternetworkExpert bootcamp was nice to get away for 12
>> days
>> > > and lab for about 12-15 hours a day. I went outside once the entire
>> > time
>> > I
>> > > was there and that was for a 5 min walk to look at the pool and I
>> didn't
>> > > turn on my tv once. I probably squeezed in about 3 weeks of lab time
>> in
>> > 2
>> > > weeks of time. In essence, I was driven to get the CCIE from start to
>> > > finish in about 4 months. Granted I have about 8 years Cisco
>> experience,
>> > > but it hasn't been hands on everyday the past 3-4 years because I work
>> in
>> > a
>> > > lab environment now and no longer do operational support, thank god
>> for
>> > that
>> > > too.
>> > >
>> > > It was a hard road, and there was many times I kept telling myself
>> this
>> > is
>> > > too hard and will I never get there. However, I kept telling myself
>> as
>> > long
>> > > as I keep studying and as long as I keep labbing I will always learn
>> > > something and will get closer. You might think I'm crazy, but I had a
>> > goal
>> > > and my wife said go for it. As I've said in previous posts, my
>> > motivattion
>> > > was not money, but to gain the knowledge these other guys didn't have
>> and
>> > to
>> > > achieve CCIE status, something most of these paper certifiers won't
>> ever
>> > > get. I have to say that I must thank these guys at work for the
>> > > motivation, and I will today when I go in to work in 2 hours after I
>> get
>> > my
>> > > Cisco polos embroidered with the CCIE logo and install an LED behind
>> it.
>> > :P
>> > > Seriously though, they gave me that spark that I was missing for years
>> > and
>> > > passing this lab attempt has ignited it even more. Now if you've
>> managed
>> > to
>> > > endure the past few paragraphs of blah, all you first time CCIE
>> > candidates
>> > > enjoy my recommendations, which you've all heard time and time again
>> I'm
>> > > sure.
>> > >
>> > > Study the Core, lab the Core until your fingers bleed. Get your Core
>> > down
>> > > to at least 3 hours or less. InternetwokExpert WB3 labs are awesome
>> for
>> > > this, I got those down to 2 hours or less, some of the hard ones took
>> 2
>> > 1/2
>> > > hours. Speed and time management was huge for me. I probably put in
>> > about
>> > > 500 hours of harcore lab time the last 4 months. I initially started
>> > > InternetworkExperts WB2 doing labs in like 10 hours, learning and
>> > > understanding the theory behind things. They were tough at first, but
>> I
>> > > constantly would go back and reread the DOCCD and reference all my
>> books,
>> > I
>> > > have ton of books. I watched their technologies COD 2 1/2 times in
>> it's
>> > > entirety. It took a lot of coffee and doing it hands on with them to
>> > stay
>> > > awake. Brian Dennis's jokes couldn't even keep me up anymore after
>> the
>> > > first go around. ;) After a few months I started completing their
>> labs
>> > in
>> > > entirety in about 4 hours. Once this happened, I would do them and
>> then
>> > > look up everything in the DOCCD, no matter if I knew it or not. This
>> was
>> > my
>> > > DOCCD familiarization stage. I actually picked that up from Scott
>> Morris
>> > > from somewhere I believe. Here it comes, you've heard it before, and
>> > you're
>> > > going to hear it again....
>> > >
>> > > KNOW YOUR DOCCD.. I guarantee you will get something in the lab that
>> you
>> > > haven't seen before. This is where speed on the CORE was essential
>> for
>> > me.
>> > > By lunch I had completed the lab once over , ran my TCL script, and
>> was
>> > > feeling a little uneasy still, but I had the meat done. I'm a
>> paranoid
>> > guy,
>> > > you can ask others. The only thing left was verification and digging
>> in
>> > the
>> > > DOCCD for those few things I didn't know. I verified twice and each
>> time
>> > I
>> > > found one small mistake that would have cost me 2 or 3 points each.
>> Oh
>> > and
>> > > by the way, I still don't know the answer to one of them weird
>> questions,
>> > > even now that I'm home and I have google, so here it comes, here it
>> comes
>> > > again, KNOW YOUR DOCCD. My last suggestion is make sure you know
>> theory
>> > > very well in the CORE IGP, well everything you learn really, but
>> > especially
>> > > your CORE. you've heard time and time again Switching, FR, and IGP
>> > probably
>> > > will be half your points. If you understand the mechanics and how
>> things
>> > > work, no matter what scenario you get you can work through it. If you
>> > > memorize the vendor WBs, it won't help in the real lab.
>> > >
>> > > So I guess I should recognize people and materials that have helped
>> me.
>> > > First off, my wife and GOD. If I don't mention her first, she might
>> kill
>> > me
>> > > and probably the same about GOD... O_o Next, InternetworkExperts ver
>> 4
>> > WBs
>> > > and their Technology COD. I have the Brians' voices engrained into my
>> > > head. Brian Dennis, Josh Finke and crew from InternetworkExpert were
>> > nice
>> > > enough to hook me up in the last hours. Also, IPExperts audio CD with
>> > Scott
>> > > Morris. I bought their WB package, but I only used the audio portion.
>> I
>> > > thought it was very good and I probably listened to it about 5 times
>> in
>> > it's
>> > > entirety driving to and from work everyday. It was just an extra tool
>> to
>> > > feed my brain the knowledge it needed.
>> > >
>> > > I already have the materials from InternetworkExpert for the SP track
>> > and
>> > > will hit that at work starting this morning since this is what I do at
>> > work
>> > > everyday and my boss will let me study while I lab it up on our 7604s.
>> :)
>> > > MMM Knowledge, I think these guys at work turned me into an animal.
>> > Watch
>> > > your back Petr, I'm coming for your CCIEs and I'll probably pass up
>> Brian
>> > > Mcgahan in 6 months because he's a slacker. j/k man. ;)
>> > >
>> > > Good luck to all other CCIE candidates and I hope this email helps.
>> > >
>> > > regards,
>> > >
>> > > Dale
>> > >
>> > > P.S. Don't unicast me for any NDA crap either, I'll turn your ass
>> into
>> > > Cisco.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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