From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Tue Apr 15 2008 - 20:04:53 ART
Which you may also be able to do through different group memberships such as
IEEE, etc.
Just more options to assist!
HTH,
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Brian McGahan
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:03 PM
To: Joseph Brunner
Cc: 'Dane Newman'; 'Gary Duncanson'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: contract or perm?
You may also want to take a look at the National Association for the Self
Employed: http://www.nase.org. I used to get group health insurance through
one of their providers when I was 1099.
HTH,
-- Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security) bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com <mailto:bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> Internetwork Expert, Inc. http://www.InternetworkExpert.com Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705 Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705 24/7 Support: http://forum.internetworkexpert.com Live Chat: http://www.internetworkexpert.com/chat/Joseph Brunner wrote: > Repost: > > On 3/28/08, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote: > > Sure here in NYC we have H.I.P. and the "freelancers union" both offer > group insurance. I hear HIP is pretty good insurance. > > Check out the freelancers union's page > > http://www.freelancersunion.org/ > > Maybe their states covered are your state? > > You can do "indemnity insurance", which my doctor recommended I do > instead of health insurance. It simply pays for anything if you have > the right policy. And yes, of course, there are ways with the right > corporate structure employee's insurance is a full deduction. Maybe > its time to incorporate? > > -J > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf > Of Dane Newman > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:55 PM > To: Gary Duncanson > Cc: Joseph Brunner; ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: Re: contract or perm? > > There is good and bad to both. I have been contracting free lance now > for about 6 months and would never go back. As a perm employee I > worked every weekend and till midnight more times then not and hated > every unpaid min of it. It seems the more you know and the better you > are at your job the more they demand of you. I would never ever go back to full time employement. > > > Heres a question for Joseph I know you mentioned cheap way for health > insurance what was that for New Yorkers again? > > Dane > > > On 4/15/08, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> The permy also gets holiday pay, sick pay and the *potential* of >> career progression. Don't forget that. It's important as the metric >> in terms of earnings between permy and contractor contract. >> >> Personally Im paid by the hour yes, but I do not stop the clock nor >> do I bill for overruns..unless they are exceptionally long. >> >> Contract or permy..the infrastructure needs defending. Having come >> through support earning stripes through the years before joining the >> designer 'officer ranks' I understand that. >> >> As for police, and fire..well I don't think that's a fair comparison >> at all. Confront the situations those guys have to deal with Joe, I >> think you would shit your pants buddy and forget your hourly rate. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Brunner" < >> joe@affirmedsystems.com> >> To: "'Gary Duncanson'" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>; < >> ccielab@groupstudy.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:14 PM >> Subject: RE: contract or perm? >> >> >> All that matters is that you are paid BY THE HOUR... >> >>> If you work for a full-time job you have to work weekends, nights >>> and other "maintenance periods" for FREE! >>> >>> The hourly employee gets the bets of both worlds... weekdays to >>> attend meetings, do designs, discuss the plan, and weekends to keep >>> the clock ticking at a nice hourly rate! >>> >>> Do not short your family or yourself! Police, fire, and civil >>> service often are paid by the hour- aren't you worth it? >>> >>> -Joe >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf >>> Of Gary Duncanson >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:42 PM >>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com >>> Subject: contract or perm? >>> >>> Group, >>> >>> I realise that this could potentially turn into a difficult thread >>> but I think those with emotional intelligence will prevent that! >>> >>> I wonder if folks could post the benefits of being contract or permy >>> these days in terms of cisco network/engineer/designer employment. >>> >>> Things have changed.. >>> >>> In 1997 companies charged $2000 dollars a day (per technician) for >>> Joe's idiot son to install Windows 95 according to the idiots >>> instructions to move from Novell to NT..*sigh* >>> >>> *caveat* the drive mappings didn't work, nor the printing! >>> >>> *further caveat* Apologies in advance to Joe's mom, >>> >>> I'm sure she's a nice lady who makes great gumbo! >>> >>> It's a different landscape these days but how are you doing? >>> >>> >>> Pass the CCIE in six weeks, Guaranteed! >>> http://www.certscience.com/CCIE >>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>> ___ Subscription information may be found at: >>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>> >>> >>> Pass the CCIE in six weeks, Guaranteed! >>> http://www.certscience.com/CCIE >>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>> ___ Subscription information may be found at: >>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>> >>> >> Pass the CCIE in six weeks, Guaranteed! >> http://www.certscience.com/CCIE >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> __ Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > > > Pass the CCIE in six weeks, Guaranteed! > http://www.certscience.com/CCIE > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > Pass the CCIE in six weeks, Guaranteed! > http://www.certscience.com/CCIE > ______________________________________________________________________ > _ Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
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