From: Dane Newman (dane.newman@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Apr 15 2008 - 22:38:11 ART
Thanks guys for the heads up on health insurance. Even though I am a young
guy I feel the need to get some.
Dane
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> Which you may also be able to do through different group memberships such
> as
> IEEE, etc.
>
> Just more options to assist!
>
> HTH,
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Brian McGahan
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:03 PM
> To: Joseph Brunner
> Cc: 'Dane Newman'; 'Gary Duncanson'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: contract or perm?
>
> You may also want to take a look at the National Association for the Self
> Employed: http://www.nase.org. I used to get group health insurance
> through
> one of their providers when I was 1099.
>
>
> HTH,
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> Joseph Brunner wrote:
> > Repost:
> >
> > On 3/28/08, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sure here in NYC we have H.I.P. and the "freelancers union" both offer
> > group insurance. I hear HIP is pretty good insurance.
> >
> > Check out the freelancers union's page
> >
> > http://www.freelancersunion.org/
> >
> > Maybe their states covered are your state?
> >
> > You can do "indemnity insurance", which my doctor recommended I do
> > instead of health insurance. It simply pays for anything if you have
> > the right policy. And yes, of course, there are ways with the right
> > corporate structure employee's insurance is a full deduction. Maybe
> > its time to incorporate?
> >
> > -J
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of Dane Newman
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:55 PM
> > To: Gary Duncanson
> > Cc: Joseph Brunner; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: contract or perm?
> >
> > There is good and bad to both. I have been contracting free lance now
> > for about 6 months and would never go back. As a perm employee I
> > worked every weekend and till midnight more times then not and hated
> > every unpaid min of it. It seems the more you know and the better you
> > are at your job the more they demand of you. I would never ever go back
> to full time employement.
> >
> >
> > Heres a question for Joseph I know you mentioned cheap way for health
> > insurance what was that for New Yorkers again?
> >
> > Dane
> >
> >
> > On 4/15/08, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The permy also gets holiday pay, sick pay and the *potential* of
> >> career progression. Don't forget that. It's important as the metric
> >> in terms of earnings between permy and contractor contract.
> >>
> >> Personally Im paid by the hour yes, but I do not stop the clock nor
> >> do I bill for overruns..unless they are exceptionally long.
> >>
> >> Contract or permy..the infrastructure needs defending. Having come
> >> through support earning stripes through the years before joining the
> >> designer 'officer ranks' I understand that.
> >>
> >> As for police, and fire..well I don't think that's a fair comparison
> >> at all. Confront the situations those guys have to deal with Joe, I
> >> think you would shit your pants buddy and forget your hourly rate.
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Brunner" <
> >> joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> >> To: "'Gary Duncanson'" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>; <
> >> ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:14 PM
> >> Subject: RE: contract or perm?
> >>
> >>
> >> All that matters is that you are paid BY THE HOUR...
> >>
> >>> If you work for a full-time job you have to work weekends, nights
> >>> and other "maintenance periods" for FREE!
> >>>
> >>> The hourly employee gets the bets of both worlds... weekdays to
> >>> attend meetings, do designs, discuss the plan, and weekends to keep
> >>> the clock ticking at a nice hourly rate!
> >>>
> >>> Do not short your family or yourself! Police, fire, and civil
> >>> service often are paid by the hour- aren't you worth it?
> >>>
> >>> -Joe
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >>> Of Gary Duncanson
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:42 PM
> >>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: contract or perm?
> >>>
> >>> Group,
> >>>
> >>> I realise that this could potentially turn into a difficult thread
> >>> but I think those with emotional intelligence will prevent that!
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if folks could post the benefits of being contract or permy
> >>> these days in terms of cisco network/engineer/designer employment.
> >>>
> >>> Things have changed..
> >>>
> >>> In 1997 companies charged $2000 dollars a day (per technician) for
> >>> Joe's idiot son to install Windows 95 according to the idiots
> >>> instructions to move from Novell to NT..*sigh*
> >>>
> >>> *caveat* the drive mappings didn't work, nor the printing!
> >>>
> >>> *further caveat* Apologies in advance to Joe's mom,
> >>>
> >>> I'm sure she's a nice lady who makes great gumbo!
> >>>
> >>> It's a different landscape these days but how are you doing?
> >>>
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