From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Feb 01 2008 - 21:51:49 ARST
Gobind,
I got this one from GS.
--- Gobind <gobind@inbox.com> wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: darbyweaver@yahoo.com
> > Sent: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:11:14 -0800 (PST)
> > To: shiranp3@gmail.com
> > Subject: OT: Re: (no subject)
> >
> > Wisely said Shiran.
> >
> > I've known one guy who quit his job to become a
> CCIE
> > and did just that. By now, I've heard of dozens
> or
> > so.
> >
> > Apparently, the guy who sponsored the first CCIE
> is
> > getting ready to take a dive off the deep end and
> > sponsor two more to become CCIE's... So surely
> there
> > will be some synergy to this group. Their plan is
> to
> > room and board together and share expenses and
> live
> > off of their savings and severance packages.
> >
> > 3 Motivated Guys in one house with nothing but,
> CCO,
> > and a couple of racks of gear in a large communal
> room
> > aka the Gameroom.
> >
> > This is three people who are room-mates in one
> > extra-large house aka a CCIE Factory.
> >
> > Not unheard of - I think there was another such
> group
> > back in the day in the Chesapeak area - like what
> 8-10
> > years ago now.
> >
> >
> > Ouch! Seems kind of extreme to me, but hey,
> compared
> > to how long I'm taking to get my CCIE, maybe it is
> not
> > a bad idea.
> >
> > I kind of like staying exmployed and getting
> > experience the old-fashioned way. Not to mention
> the
> > wife would kill me.
> >
> >
> > But wages are relative to location, country, and
> other
> > most importantly "employer".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- shiran guez <shiranp3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Just one thing to think about: 2 weeks ago I was
> in
> >> my first lab attempt in
> >> San Jose CA I stayed in Hotel 10 min from Cisco
> >> buildings the distance
> >> between the hotel to the Airport was ~30mil just
> >> under 40 min drive the taxi
> >> took 120$ and I drought he had a CCIE, so in
> >> relation to that a hour fee can
> >> change based on location as you may be able to
> >> charge 120 - 150 per hr in CA
> >> but in DC you will be able to charge 250$ per hr
> or
> >> in India you will not be
> >> able to Charge more then 50$ per hr, so it is
> really
> >> a location dependent.
> >>
> >> Also another suggestion if you want to continue
> in
> >> your line of work IT do
> >> not quit anything stick in your quest to achieve
> >> goals as it is not only
> >> good for your prestige it is also show character
> and
> >> as we are in a
> >> capitalistic world it also pay the rent. and it
> >> doesn't meter if you will
> >> pursue Cisco or other (forgive me John Chambers)
> >> like Juniper (growing
> >> quickly).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 30, 2008 5:16 PM, Darby Weaver
> >> <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This may be true.
> >>>
> >>> Jospeh Brunner quotes some nice rates and I
> guess
> >> as a
> >>> trainer and as an outsourcer (I understand he
> >> might
> >>> hire out soem of his students from time to
> time),
> >> then
> >>> yes, contract rates may be exceptional - $150k
> or
> >> even
> >>> $150.00 per hour in NY or elsewhere.
> >>>
> >>> However, it seems most CCIE and CCIE-level
> >> positions
> >>> seems to get to about the $125-150k plus
> benefits
> >> and
> >>> bonus.
> >>>
> >>> With that said I recall hearing of a CCIE in my
> >> own
> >>> company working at a site for a about 1/2 the
> low
> >>> figure.
> >>>
> >>> I know of a double CCIE personally who was a
> >> double
> >>> and doing 80k till he got a few years of
> >> seasoning,
> >>> and I'd have to check but with a CCIE
> RS/Security
> >> and
> >>> signicicant VoIP experience working for a Gold
> >> Partner
> >>> he may still be under $125k base.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So... for most of us, I think $100-125k is going
> >> to be
> >>> the rate for a while. Contract rates will
> differ
> >>> somewhat depending on conditions. $150k may be
> the
> >>> tops.
> >>>
> >>> Just a few observances...
> >>>
> >>> Personally myself and a coworker were speaking
> of
> >> this
> >>> yesterday actually came to the conclusion that a
> >> CCIE
> >>> certification pretty much qualifies one to
> >> volunteer
> >>> for travel, and extensive travel at that at
> least
> >> for
> >>> our company.
> >>>
> >>> Myself, I'm too close to quit the IE quest now
> >> however
> >>> mypartner is fairly experienced and ties knots
> >> with
> >>> the IOS on a daily basis... the last quote from
> >> TAC
> >>> to him was "Is there any feature that you didn't
> >>> use..."
> >>>
> >>> But newbies may have a harder time trying to
> >> justify
> >>> the time and expense required to earn the CCIE,
> >> when
> >>> there are so many easier roads to follow that
> >> require
> >>> so much less dedication and regimen to achieve.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- EdmondsSG@aol.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm not sure that having IE means $$$ in the
> >> market
> >>>> place anymore - maybe
> >>>> for people running bootcamps etc and the like -
> >> but
> >>>> not in my world....
> >>>>
> >>>> I would think theres more money to be made in
> >>>> advising others how to pass
> >>>> than in say a bank isp etc ..
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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