From: Gobind (gobind@inbox.com)
Date: Fri Feb 01 2008 - 20:08:35 ARST
> -----Original Message-----
> From: darbyweaver@yahoo.com
> Sent: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:11:14 -0800 (PST)
> To: shiranp3@gmail.com
> Subject: OT: Re: (no subject)
>
> Wisely said Shiran.
>
> I've known one guy who quit his job to become a CCIE
> and did just that. By now, I've heard of dozens or
> so.
>
> Apparently, the guy who sponsored the first CCIE is
> getting ready to take a dive off the deep end and
> sponsor two more to become CCIE's... So surely there
> will be some synergy to this group. Their plan is to
> room and board together and share expenses and live
> off of their savings and severance packages.
>
> 3 Motivated Guys in one house with nothing but, CCO,
> and a couple of racks of gear in a large communal room
> aka the Gameroom.
>
> This is three people who are room-mates in one
> extra-large house aka a CCIE Factory.
>
> Not unheard of - I think there was another such group
> back in the day in the Chesapeak area - like what 8-10
> years ago now.
>
>
> Ouch! Seems kind of extreme to me, but hey, compared
> to how long I'm taking to get my CCIE, maybe it is not
> a bad idea.
>
> I kind of like staying exmployed and getting
> experience the old-fashioned way. Not to mention the
> wife would kill me.
>
>
> But wages are relative to location, country, and other
> most importantly "employer".
>
>
>
>
>
> --- shiran guez <shiranp3@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just one thing to think about: 2 weeks ago I was in
>> my first lab attempt in
>> San Jose CA I stayed in Hotel 10 min from Cisco
>> buildings the distance
>> between the hotel to the Airport was ~30mil just
>> under 40 min drive the taxi
>> took 120$ and I drought he had a CCIE, so in
>> relation to that a hour fee can
>> change based on location as you may be able to
>> charge 120 - 150 per hr in CA
>> but in DC you will be able to charge 250$ per hr or
>> in India you will not be
>> able to Charge more then 50$ per hr, so it is really
>> a location dependent.
>>
>> Also another suggestion if you want to continue in
>> your line of work IT do
>> not quit anything stick in your quest to achieve
>> goals as it is not only
>> good for your prestige it is also show character and
>> as we are in a
>> capitalistic world it also pay the rent. and it
>> doesn't meter if you will
>> pursue Cisco or other (forgive me John Chambers)
>> like Juniper (growing
>> quickly).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2008 5:16 PM, Darby Weaver
>> <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This may be true.
>>>
>>> Jospeh Brunner quotes some nice rates and I guess
>> as a
>>> trainer and as an outsourcer (I understand he
>> might
>>> hire out soem of his students from time to time),
>> then
>>> yes, contract rates may be exceptional - $150k or
>> even
>>> $150.00 per hour in NY or elsewhere.
>>>
>>> However, it seems most CCIE and CCIE-level
>> positions
>>> seems to get to about the $125-150k plus benefits
>> and
>>> bonus.
>>>
>>> With that said I recall hearing of a CCIE in my
>> own
>>> company working at a site for a about 1/2 the low
>>> figure.
>>>
>>> I know of a double CCIE personally who was a
>> double
>>> and doing 80k till he got a few years of
>> seasoning,
>>> and I'd have to check but with a CCIE RS/Security
>> and
>>> signicicant VoIP experience working for a Gold
>> Partner
>>> he may still be under $125k base.
>>>
>>>
>>> So... for most of us, I think $100-125k is going
>> to be
>>> the rate for a while. Contract rates will differ
>>> somewhat depending on conditions. $150k may be the
>>> tops.
>>>
>>> Just a few observances...
>>>
>>> Personally myself and a coworker were speaking of
>> this
>>> yesterday actually came to the conclusion that a
>> CCIE
>>> certification pretty much qualifies one to
>> volunteer
>>> for travel, and extensive travel at that at least
>> for
>>> our company.
>>>
>>> Myself, I'm too close to quit the IE quest now
>> however
>>> mypartner is fairly experienced and ties knots
>> with
>>> the IOS on a daily basis... the last quote from
>> TAC
>>> to him was "Is there any feature that you didn't
>>> use..."
>>>
>>> But newbies may have a harder time trying to
>> justify
>>> the time and expense required to earn the CCIE,
>> when
>>> there are so many easier roads to follow that
>> require
>>> so much less dedication and regimen to achieve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- EdmondsSG@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure that having IE means $$$ in the
>> market
>>>> place anymore - maybe
>>>> for people running bootcamps etc and the like -
>> but
>>>> not in my world....
>>>>
>>>> I would think theres more money to be made in
>>>> advising others how to pass
>>>> than in say a bank isp etc ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>> --
>> Shiran Guez
>> MCSE CCNP NCE1
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