From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Jan 31 2008 - 11:11:14 ARST
Wisely said Shiran.
I've known one guy who quit his job to become a CCIE
and did just that. By now, I've heard of dozens or
so.
Apparently, the guy who sponsored the first CCIE is
getting ready to take a dive off the deep end and
sponsor two more to become CCIE's... So surely there
will be some synergy to this group. Their plan is to
room and board together and share expenses and live
off of their savings and severance packages.
3 Motivated Guys in one house with nothing but, CCO,
and a couple of racks of gear in a large communal room
aka the Gameroom.
This is three people who are room-mates in one
extra-large house aka a CCIE Factory.
Not unheard of - I think there was another such group
back in the day in the Chesapeak area - like what 8-10
years ago now.
Ouch! Seems kind of extreme to me, but hey, compared
to how long I'm taking to get my CCIE, maybe it is not
a bad idea.
I kind of like staying exmployed and getting
experience the old-fashioned way. Not to mention the
wife would kill me.
But wages are relative to location, country, and other
most importantly "employer".
--- shiran guez <shiranp3@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just one thing to think about: 2 weeks ago I was in
> my first lab attempt in
> San Jose CA I stayed in Hotel 10 min from Cisco
> buildings the distance
> between the hotel to the Airport was ~30mil just
> under 40 min drive the taxi
> took 120$ and I drought he had a CCIE, so in
> relation to that a hour fee can
> change based on location as you may be able to
> charge 120 - 150 per hr in CA
> but in DC you will be able to charge 250$ per hr or
> in India you will not be
> able to Charge more then 50$ per hr, so it is really
> a location dependent.
>
> Also another suggestion if you want to continue in
> your line of work IT do
> not quit anything stick in your quest to achieve
> goals as it is not only
> good for your prestige it is also show character and
> as we are in a
> capitalistic world it also pay the rent. and it
> doesn't meter if you will
> pursue Cisco or other (forgive me John Chambers)
> like Juniper (growing
> quickly).
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2008 5:16 PM, Darby Weaver
> <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > This may be true.
> >
> > Jospeh Brunner quotes some nice rates and I guess
> as a
> > trainer and as an outsourcer (I understand he
> might
> > hire out soem of his students from time to time),
> then
> > yes, contract rates may be exceptional - $150k or
> even
> > $150.00 per hour in NY or elsewhere.
> >
> > However, it seems most CCIE and CCIE-level
> positions
> > seems to get to about the $125-150k plus benefits
> and
> > bonus.
> >
> > With that said I recall hearing of a CCIE in my
> own
> > company working at a site for a about 1/2 the low
> > figure.
> >
> > I know of a double CCIE personally who was a
> double
> > and doing 80k till he got a few years of
> seasoning,
> > and I'd have to check but with a CCIE RS/Security
> and
> > signicicant VoIP experience working for a Gold
> Partner
> > he may still be under $125k base.
> >
> >
> > So... for most of us, I think $100-125k is going
> to be
> > the rate for a while. Contract rates will differ
> > somewhat depending on conditions. $150k may be the
> > tops.
> >
> > Just a few observances...
> >
> > Personally myself and a coworker were speaking of
> this
> > yesterday actually came to the conclusion that a
> CCIE
> > certification pretty much qualifies one to
> volunteer
> > for travel, and extensive travel at that at least
> for
> > our company.
> >
> > Myself, I'm too close to quit the IE quest now
> however
> > mypartner is fairly experienced and ties knots
> with
> > the IOS on a daily basis... the last quote from
> TAC
> > to him was "Is there any feature that you didn't
> > use..."
> >
> > But newbies may have a harder time trying to
> justify
> > the time and expense required to earn the CCIE,
> when
> > there are so many easier roads to follow that
> require
> > so much less dedication and regimen to achieve.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- EdmondsSG@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not sure that having IE means $$$ in the
> market
> > > place anymore - maybe
> > > for people running bootcamps etc and the like -
> but
> > > not in my world....
> > >
> > > I would think theres more money to be made in
> > > advising others how to pass
> > > than in say a bank isp etc ..
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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