From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Mon Nov 26 2007 - 20:09:17 ART
According to some people yes. *shrug*
-----Original Message-----
From: Guyler, Rik [mailto:rguyler@shp-dayton.org]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:12 PM
To: smorris@ipexpert.com; Scott Vermillion; Scott Voll; Cisco certification
Subject: RE: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
What...did I miss something? I wasn't really commenting on any particular
type of lab prep, just a general observation. Do you believe that you
should study differently for the different types of CCIE? I wouldn't have
thought so but what do I know. ;-)
Rik
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@ipexpert.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:05 PM
To: Guyler, Rik; 'Scott Vermillion'; 'Scott Voll'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
Interesting that the viewpoint IS indeed different for Voice vs. R&S.
:)
-----Original Message-----
From: Guyler, Rik [mailto:rguyler@shp-dayton.org]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 4:35 PM
To: Scott Vermillion; smorris@ipexpert.com; Scott Voll; Cisco certification
Subject: RE: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
Me too. I've read more than one instructor say to NOT take the bootcamp
until you are just around the corner from your lab. Not to say one way is
better over the other...just different. From personal experiences in the
past (not CCIE related) I have found that knowing more about a given subject
allows me to learn more about what I'm being taught on that subject since I
already have the basics down and can pay more attention to the subtleties at
that point. Just my opinion.
Rik
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Vermillion
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 4:01 PM
To: smorris@ipexpert.com; 'Scott Voll'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
Well, that's two professional instructors who have come out in favor of
going early and going often! So I think it's official that the other other
Scott's approach is a wise one.
Question: Not having been through a bootcamp yet, are they structured such
that someone new to lab prep would not be able to drag down those who are
days or weeks away from sitting the lab? I'm guessing so since you guys who
teach are in favor of this, which is a bit of a surprise to me, honestly...
Cheers,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@ipexpert.com]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:55 PM
To: 'Scott Vermillion'; 'Scott Voll'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
An interesting view, but look at it a different way....
Some companies (at least IPexpert) has a resit policy. Not that I advocate
using that, but IF circumstances dictate...
Take a bootcamp to absorb information AND to get a week (or two?) away from
the office/normal work in order to concentrate on your studies.
Take the lab when its coming up. If you still happen to not pass it, retake
the bootcamp. You'll gain more from it the second time around anyway, and
have a better perspective for which things you need more help on.
A lot depends on how much time your company is willing to give in the
long-run.
HTH,
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE-M
#153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Vermillion
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:38 PM
To: 'Scott Voll'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
Back July or August, I scheduled my lab for Feb '08. At the time, I thought
it was a looooong way out. Now I feel like that date is coming at me like a
freight train!
I wouldn't personally waste valuable study time sitting through a bootcamp
unless I could really absorb what was being churned out. So if you're
pretty strong across the board, go for it. But otherwise don't waste that
week or two. Just get started and hope for one shot at the bootcamp and
likewise one shot at the lab!
Regards,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Voll
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:02 PM
To: Cisco certification
Subject: game plan for CCIE LAB -Voice
OK--
I got my Lab test scheduled for May 30, 2008 (holy cow that's a long ways
out).
I'm looking at taking the IPExpert bootcamp and they also offer a guarantee
that if you don't pass you can retake OR take it again before the test. I'm
thinking about taking the bootcamp now.......
study, study, study, then take the bootcamp again before the test.
Any thoughts?
Scott
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