From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Nov 06 2007 - 19:37:09 ART
Unbelievable
On 11/6/07, Jesse Loggins (CCIE#14661) <jlogginsccie@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
> As a CCIE who has the responsibility of interviewing other CCIE's here is
> my
> take. One of the things that I have run across allot lately, are CCIE's
> with
> no practical experience. In my opinion this is partly because Lab Prep
> material is so prevalent and easily attainable. I have come across many
> CCIE's that could not tell me how to physically connect to a router to
> configure it. That is they had no idea what the console port is. Another
> one
> is not knowing how to upgrade the IOS on a router. Also it is amazing how
> many CCIE's don't understand IP, as in how things work. For instance one
> of
> my interview questions it to ask a CCIE candidate to explain to me how
> traceroute works. Or another is to explain the significance of MTU in a
> real
> world network. Most of the time I get an incorrect response. Why do I ask
> these questions? Because to me it shows how much real world experience a
> candidate has. In my opinion a CCIE candidate should have at least 2 to 5
> years of experience before pursuing a CCIE. They should also work there
> way
> from CCNA to CCNP and then to CCIE, learning the technologies as they go
> (not just using test prep material). Reading all of the books in the
> suggested CCIE reading list for your specific track is also another thing
> that I would suggest. And it never hurts to read through the RFC's (in my
> opinion as a CCIE your should do this no questions). I say this all to
> suggest that the interviewer that asked you these questions may have had
> the
> same purpose in mind. In my opinion the number of inexperienced CCIE's on
> the market right now are really hurting the credibility of our coveted
> certification. That seems to be the reason why many of us are starting to
> pursue multiple CCIE's to distinguish ourselves. In the past multi-CCIE's
> where rare, but now they seem to have become a necessary thing. I say this
> as I prepare to take the Service Provider CCIE lab in a few days.
>
> As a side note I asked the last CCIE that I interviewed (he was a recently
> cert'd CCIE) to explain to me how the mac-address-table (CAM table for you
> old salty CCIE's :-) ) on a switch is populated. His response (this came
> after numerous questions he could no answer) was "Dude have you been
> studying lately?", I laughed and told him Thanks for his time.
>
>
> Jesse Loggins
> CCIE #14661 (R&S)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tom nohwa" <tom.nohwa@gmail.com>
> To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 4:34 AM
> Subject: CCIE Important Interview Quesition asked by Sunrise, Swiss
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This is to explain you my job search experience happened in Swiss after
> > acquiring my CCIE. I am not sure how many of you have come across
> similar
> > situation.
> >
> > I started my CCIE journey in the beginning of last year and passed the
> lab
> > a
> > few months ago. Later, I started contacting the ISPs, most of them
> never
> > responded. I got an interview from one ISP which is the second largest
> > ISP
> > (Sunrise) in Swiss. During the interview, they did not ask any tech
> > questions, instead they asked whether I would be *able to lift the
> router
> > and fix it in the rack.* I was astonished to hear this question, but I
> > said
> > I would do it during the emergency situation. Then, I was asked to
> wait
> > for few weeks. Few weeks later, I got the response that my French
> skill
> > was very poor.
> >
> > I have now the following questions to my fellow experts:
> >
> > 1. I have seen only the English version of Cisco IOS. Do you know any
> > French version?
> > 2. Having 10+ years experience in networking and holding a degree in
> > networking from the world famous university, I was never asked to answer
> > any
> > tech question. Instead, question like lifting the router and fixing it
> in
> > the rack, always irritate me. Is this type of question asked to
> > irritate/insult the CCIE?
> > 3. Is it normal that companies don't respond to an CCIE's job
> > applications
> > (of course my nationality is mentioned in my CV)?
> >
> > Please let me know your comments as I hear that CCIEs are highly
> respected
> > everywhere.
> >
> > Best,
> > Joe.
> >
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-- Narbik Kocharians CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) CCSI# 30832 www.Net-WorkBooks.com
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