Re: Lab Query

From: Brian Dennis (bdennis@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Fri Oct 19 2007 - 23:48:42 ART


Yes that's the idea.

I think that people are reading this as if I'm saying this is the only
preparation needed. What I'm saying is that after you have a solid
understanding of the blueprint topics and are ready to move onto the full
scale labs that doing 30 full scale labs by repeating the same 6 labs 5
times each is better for some people than doing 30 totally different full
scale labs.

Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
bdennis@internetworkexpert.com

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>----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Lab Query
Date: Fri, October 19, 2007 17:47
From: "Jonny English" <redkidneybeans@gmail.com>

> Hi Brian.
>
> Do those five or six labs cover the blueprint?
>
> Shouldn't we first learn everything of the blueprint using the DocCD and
> books and then do those 6 labs over and over again?
>
> Any advice?
>
> Thank you
>
> On 10/20/07, Brian Dennis bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> >
> > I passed all of my labs without doing a single full scale lab so how come
> > someone today can't pass the lab doing five or six full scale labs five
> > times each?
> >
> > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> >
> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> >
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > Subject: RE: Lab Query
> > Date: Fri, October 19, 2007 11:04
> > From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> >
> > > I can't believe people pass with just doing 4 or 5 labs 4 or 5 times...
> > >
> > > I personally have seen several non-IE WB related topologies in the real
> > lab.
> > > Doing ALL 20 IE WB labs once, gave me those points from adaptation. My
> > > scores thus far are 68, 72 and now 74-77 points in the real lab.
> > Bummer...
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Gregory Gombas
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:32 AM
> > > To: Brian Dennis
> > > Cc: Ananth Vk; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Lab Query
> > >
> > > Hi Brian,
> > >
> > > Big IE fan here...but wouldn't doing the same labs over and over again
> > > just get you used to a certain topology, so when you come across a new
> > > topology in the lab it makes it harder to adapt?
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your top five picks though...
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On 10/18/07, Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> > > > If I personally was going to take a test and I saw a lot of people
> > saying
> > > > they used a certain "method" to prepare that enabled them to pass the
> > > > first time around I surely would at least look into using that
> > "method".
> > > > Of course we know that not all methods work for all people so I may
> > take
> > > > this certain method and modify it to fit my learning style.
> > > >
> > > > As a side note a new highly successful approach that we (Internetwork
> > > > Expert) are recommending to certain candidates is taking only 5 or 6
> > full
> > > > scale labs but doing them 4 or 5 times each. Then during the last
> > week or
> > > > two before the real lab taking 2 or 3 additional full scale labs and
> > doing
> > > > them once or twice each. This approach should get you to the point
> > where
> > > > you can do any of the 5 or 6 labs within 4 hours and be able to
> > complete
> > > > the additional 2 or 3 labs within 5 to 5.5 hours. You would be
amazed
> > at
> > > > the amount you can learn by doing a lab more than once. Plus one of
> > the
> > > > big benefits with this approach is that you gain speed and accuracy
> > > > (accuracy = correct configuration the first time around) which is
> > > > important in passing the lab.
> > > >
> > > > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&amp;amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > > > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > > >
> > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > > > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > Subject: Lab Query
> > > > Date: Wed, October 17, 2007 19:03
> > > > From: "Ananth Vk" <ananth.vk@tcs.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > There are a lot of practice labs available for the lab from
> > different
> > > > > vendors..
> > > > > Lets say i have practiced 10 labs that are complex &amp;amp;amp;
say im
> > > > confident,then
> > > > > how to determine if my 11th one has to be the real lab / another
> > > practice
> > > > > lab
> > > > >
> > > > > Whats the main take away with the practice labs ?
> > > > > Is it the practice in number of practice labs/ complexity in
> > topology/
> > > > > types of questions asked ?
> > > > > Cos i sometimes read that a person passed lab in first attempt
> > &amp;amp;amp; he
> > > > read
> > > > > books + a specific vendor material....
> > > > > Then whats the differentiator in the real lab that puts many people
> > down
> > > > > though they had many workbooks to practice with them ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Ananth
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