From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Oct 19 2007 - 23:19:06 ART
We need to be hand-fed.
We have problems subnetting, figuring out how to
create automatically generated 0.0.0.0 routes and
believing they belong there when we do, spanning-tree
kicks us in the shin, sometimes we cannot get the
authentication correct, other times we cannot work out
bridging or split-horizon, stub routing in any
protocol can be problematic, setting timers, metrics,
etc. gives us heart-burn, nat/pat just don't seem to
work without good examples, tracking doesn't track as
easily, hsrp and port-security are mind blanks,
redistribution is a real pretzel sometimes, AD get
confused with Anno Domini, route-maps, QoS,
precedence, queueing, 2 or 3 color markers, car, gts,
frts and other things... tie up time, so we get
lazy... can't seem to get those menus, privilege
levels, and autocommands to work right without good
examples... nevermind ppp and frame-realy and lord
knows we would all still be adding "no arp frame" to
our configs had we not tried enough labs and lectures
from a couple of guys with the same first name...
And for about another 500 reasons... I left out..
I think we all got "no fram inv" on our own though...
Ok, pain killer is kicking in now...
Gotta sleep... npo after midnight...
Later
--- Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
wrote:
> I passed all of my labs without doing a single full
> scale lab so how come
> someone today can't pass the lab doing five or six
> full scale labs five
> times each?
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> Subject: RE: Lab Query
> Date: Fri, October 19, 2007 11:04
> From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
>
> > I can't believe people pass with just doing 4 or 5
> labs 4 or 5 times...
> >
> > I personally have seen several non-IE WB related
> topologies in the real
> lab.
> > Doing ALL 20 IE WB labs once, gave me those points
> from adaptation. My
> > scores thus far are 68, 72 and now 74-77 points in
> the real lab. Bummer...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Gregory Gombas
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:32 AM
> > To: Brian Dennis
> > Cc: Ananth Vk; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Lab Query
> >
> > Hi Brian,
> >
> > Big IE fan here...but wouldn't doing the same labs
> over and over again
> > just get you used to a certain topology, so when
> you come across a new
> > topology in the lab it makes it harder to adapt?
> >
> > Looking forward to your top five picks though...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> >
> > On 10/18/07, Brian Dennis
> <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> > > If I personally was going to take a test and I
> saw a lot of people saying
> > > they used a certain "method" to prepare that
> enabled them to pass the
> > > first time around I surely would at least look
> into using that "method".
> > > Of course we know that not all methods work for
> all people so I may take
> > > this certain method and modify it to fit my
> learning style.
> > >
> > > As a side note a new highly successful approach
> that we (Internetwork
> > > Expert) are recommending to certain candidates
> is taking only 5 or 6 full
> > > scale labs but doing them 4 or 5 times each.
> Then during the last
> week or
> > > two before the real lab taking 2 or 3 additional
> full scale labs and
> doing
> > > them once or twice each. This approach should
> get you to the point where
> > > you can do any of the 5 or 6 labs within 4 hours
> and be able to complete
> > > the additional 2 or 3 labs within 5 to 5.5
> hours. You would be amazed at
> > > the amount you can learn by doing a lab more
> than once. Plus one of the
> > > big benefits with this approach is that you gain
> speed and accuracy
> > > (accuracy = correct configuration the first time
> around) which is
> > > important in passing the lab.
> > >
> > > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210
> (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > >
> > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> > >
> > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > Subject: Lab Query
> > > Date: Wed, October 17, 2007 19:03
> > > From: "Ananth Vk" <ananth.vk@tcs.com>
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > There are a lot of practice labs available for
> the lab from different
> > > > vendors..
> > > > Lets say i have practiced 10 labs that are
> complex &amp; say im
> > > confident,then
> > > > how to determine if my 11th one has to be the
> real lab / another
> > practice
> > > > lab
> > > >
> > > > Whats the main take away with the practice
> labs ?
> > > > Is it the practice in number of practice labs/
> complexity in topology/
> > > > types of questions asked ?
> > > > Cos i sometimes read that a person passed lab
> in first attempt
> &amp; he
> > > read
> > > > books + a specific vendor material....
> > > > Then whats the differentiator in the real lab
> that puts many people
> down
> > > > though they had many workbooks to practice
> with them ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Ananth
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