From: Jonny English (redkidneybeans@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Oct 19 2007 - 23:14:28 ART
Doesn't seem to work this way anymore. Technical interviews have put a stop
to just hiring people just because they have a certification.
I rather learn the hard way and be able to answer what is given to me in an
interview. Doing 6 labs over and over again to me just seems to good to be
true. And its hard to believe you can learn everything in the blueprint from
6 labs. I could be wrong, can someone tell me if those 6 labs 1, 7,8,9,10,
and 11 from IEWBv4 cover the whole blueprint?
thanks
On 10/20/07, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jonny,
>
> Anyone can pass the lab by reading DOC-CD and also by creating its own lab
> topologies BUT the thing is that who wants to put that much effort because
> this will approach (with out any vendor Workbook(s)) will take longer time
> then following the approach designed by the vendor.
>
> To be honest with you CCIE is a fast money people want to become CCIE as
> soon as possible so they can earn good money and aslo self satisfaction.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On 10/20/07, Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Brian.
> >
> > Do those five or six labs cover the blueprint?
> >
> > Shouldn't we first learn everything of the blueprint using the DocCD and
> > books and then do those 6 labs over and over again?
> >
> > Any advice?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > On 10/20/07, Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I passed all of my labs without doing a single full scale lab so how
> > come
> > > someone today can't pass the lab doing five or six full scale labs
> > five
> > > times each?
> > >
> > > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > >
> > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> > >
> > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > Subject: RE: Lab Query
> > > Date: Fri, October 19, 2007 11:04
> > > From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com >
> > >
> > > > I can't believe people pass with just doing 4 or 5 labs 4 or 5
> > times...
> > > >
> > > > I personally have seen several non-IE WB related topologies in the
> > real
> > > lab.
> > > > Doing ALL 20 IE WB labs once, gave me those points from adaptation.
> > My
> > > > scores thus far are 68, 72 and now 74-77 points in the real lab.
> > > Bummer...
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > > Gregory Gombas
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:32 AM
> > > > To: Brian Dennis
> > > > Cc: Ananth Vk; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Lab Query
> > > >
> > > > Hi Brian,
> > > >
> > > > Big IE fan here...but wouldn't doing the same labs over and over
> > again
> > > > just get you used to a certain topology, so when you come across a
> > new
> > > > topology in the lab it makes it harder to adapt?
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to your top five picks though...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > > On 10/18/07, Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> > > > > If I personally was going to take a test and I saw a lot of people
> >
> > > saying
> > > > > they used a certain "method" to prepare that enabled them to pass
> > the
> > > > > first time around I surely would at least look into using that
> > > "method".
> > > > > Of course we know that not all methods work for all people so I
> > may
> > > take
> > > > > this certain method and modify it to fit my learning style.
> > > > >
> > > > > As a side note a new highly successful approach that we
> > (Internetwork
> > > > > Expert) are recommending to certain candidates is taking only 5 or
> > 6
> > > full
> > > > > scale labs but doing them 4 or 5 times each. Then during the last
> > > week or
> > > > > two before the real lab taking 2 or 3 additional full scale labs
> > and
> > > doing
> > > > > them once or twice each. This approach should get you to the
> > point
> > > where
> > > > > you can do any of the 5 or 6 labs within 4 hours and be able to
> > > complete
> > > > > the additional 2 or 3 labs within 5 to 5.5 hours. You would be
> > amazed
> > > at
> > > > > the amount you can learn by doing a lab more than once. Plus one
> > of
> > > the
> > > > > big benefits with this approach is that you gain speed and
> > accuracy
> > > > > (accuracy = correct configuration the first time around) which is
> > > > > important in passing the lab.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > > > > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > > > > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > Subject: Lab Query
> > > > > Date: Wed, October 17, 2007 19:03
> > > > > From: "Ananth Vk" <ananth.vk@tcs.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are a lot of practice labs available for the lab from
> > > different
> > > > > > vendors..
> > > > > > Lets say i have practiced 10 labs that are complex &amp; say
> > im
> > > > > confident,then
> > > > > > how to determine if my 11th one has to be the real lab / another
> > > > practice
> > > > > > lab
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whats the main take away with the practice labs ?
> > > > > > Is it the practice in number of practice labs/ complexity in
> > > topology/
> > > > > > types of questions asked ?
> > > > > > Cos i sometimes read that a person passed lab in first attempt
> > > &amp; he
> > > > > read
> > > > > > books + a specific vendor material....
> > > > > > Then whats the differentiator in the real lab that puts many
> > people
> > > down
> > > > > > though they had many workbooks to practice with them ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Ananth
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