Re: Lab Query

From: Muhammad Nasim (muhammad.nasim@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Oct 19 2007 - 22:57:52 ART


Dear Jonny,

Anyone can pass the lab by reading DOC-CD and also by creating its own lab
topologies BUT the thing is that who wants to put that much effort because
this will approach (with out any vendor Workbook(s)) will take longer time
then following the approach designed by the vendor.

To be honest with you CCIE is a fast money people want to become CCIE as
soon as possible so they can earn good money and aslo self satisfaction.

Thanks

On 10/20/07, Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Brian.
>
> Do those five or six labs cover the blueprint?
>
> Shouldn't we first learn everything of the blueprint using the DocCD and
> books and then do those 6 labs over and over again?
>
> Any advice?
>
> Thank you
>
> On 10/20/07, Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> >
> > I passed all of my labs without doing a single full scale lab so how
> come
> > someone today can't pass the lab doing five or six full scale labs five
> > times each?
> >
> > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> >
> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> >
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > Subject: RE: Lab Query
> > Date: Fri, October 19, 2007 11:04
> > From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> >
> > > I can't believe people pass with just doing 4 or 5 labs 4 or 5
> times...
> > >
> > > I personally have seen several non-IE WB related topologies in the
> real
> > lab.
> > > Doing ALL 20 IE WB labs once, gave me those points from adaptation. My
> > > scores thus far are 68, 72 and now 74-77 points in the real lab.
> > Bummer...
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Gregory Gombas
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:32 AM
> > > To: Brian Dennis
> > > Cc: Ananth Vk; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Lab Query
> > >
> > > Hi Brian,
> > >
> > > Big IE fan here...but wouldn't doing the same labs over and over again
> > > just get you used to a certain topology, so when you come across a new
> > > topology in the lab it makes it harder to adapt?
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your top five picks though...
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On 10/18/07, Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> > > > If I personally was going to take a test and I saw a lot of people
> > saying
> > > > they used a certain "method" to prepare that enabled them to pass
> the
> > > > first time around I surely would at least look into using that
> > "method".
> > > > Of course we know that not all methods work for all people so I may
> > take
> > > > this certain method and modify it to fit my learning style.
> > > >
> > > > As a side note a new highly successful approach that we
> (Internetwork
> > > > Expert) are recommending to certain candidates is taking only 5 or 6
> > full
> > > > scale labs but doing them 4 or 5 times each. Then during the last
> > week or
> > > > two before the real lab taking 2 or 3 additional full scale labs and
> > doing
> > > > them once or twice each. This approach should get you to the point
> > where
> > > > you can do any of the 5 or 6 labs within 4 hours and be able to
> > complete
> > > > the additional 2 or 3 labs within 5 to 5.5 hours. You would be
> amazed
> > at
> > > > the amount you can learn by doing a lab more than once. Plus one of
> > the
> > > > big benefits with this approach is that you gain speed and accuracy
> > > > (accuracy = correct configuration the first time around) which is
> > > > important in passing the lab.
> > > >
> > > > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > > > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > > >
> > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > > > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > Subject: Lab Query
> > > > Date: Wed, October 17, 2007 19:03
> > > > From: "Ananth Vk" <ananth.vk@tcs.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > There are a lot of practice labs available for the lab from
> > different
> > > > > vendors..
> > > > > Lets say i have practiced 10 labs that are complex &amp;amp; say
> im
> > > > confident,then
> > > > > how to determine if my 11th one has to be the real lab / another
> > > practice
> > > > > lab
> > > > >
> > > > > Whats the main take away with the practice labs ?
> > > > > Is it the practice in number of practice labs/ complexity in
> > topology/
> > > > > types of questions asked ?
> > > > > Cos i sometimes read that a person passed lab in first attempt
> > &amp;amp; he
> > > > read
> > > > > books + a specific vendor material....
> > > > > Then whats the differentiator in the real lab that puts many
> people
> > down
> > > > > though they had many workbooks to practice with them ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Ananth
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Muhammad Nasim
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