From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Mon Sep 17 2007 - 13:20:13 ART
I thought that was so that aliens couldn't read our minds.... (no matter
which "head" we were thinking with)
<<My apologies to any ladies hanging out here>>
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From: petrsoft@gmail.com [mailto:petrsoft@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Petr
Lapukhov
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:15 PM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: Gary Duncanson; bdennis@internetworkexpert.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
They would probably add tin foil hats (and pants :) to the list of the
wireless lab gear :)
-- Petr Lapukhov, CCIE #16379 (R&S/Security/SP) petr@internetworkexpert.com <mailto:petr@internetworkexpert.com>Internetwork Expert, Inc. http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
2007/9/17, Scott Morris < smorris@ipexpert.com <mailto:smorris@ipexpert.com> >:
That depends on the wattage of the antenna and how close you are to the actual antenna. I am sure that Cisco would keep this in mind when designing a CCIE lab around it. If you kill your test-takers, it's not very good PR. :)
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-----Original Message----- From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Gary Duncanson Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:10 AM To: bdennis@internetworkexpert.com Cc: Scott Morris; ccielab@groupstudy.com Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
Are there known health risk's with wireless? A boss at a previous wasn't keen on it as he was of the opinion it fries people's brains.
Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Dennis" <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com <mailto:bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> > To: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>; "'Joseph Brunner'" <joe@affirmedsystems.com <mailto:joe@affirmedsystems.com> >; "'Gary Duncanson'" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>; "'Neil Moore'" <neil@droopy.com <mailto:neil@droopy.com> >; <ccielab@groupstudy.com> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 5:23 AM Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney
> That's cool. The wireless labs for Cisco that I saw used the Faraday > cages but they weren't cheap from my understanding. > > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP) > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com <mailto:bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> > > Internetwork Expert, Inc. > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada) > > >>----- Original Message ----- > Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney > Date: Sun, September 16, 2007 19:57 > From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com <mailto:smorris@ipexpert.com> > > >> That would be an expensive and irritating way to make/take an exam! > There's >> actually some paint that will absorb RF that I had discusseed with >> and passed along to some folks... That (IMHO) is the easier way to >> do things, but at the same time, I'm thinking only one per day! (per >> location >> enabled) >> >> Cisco has wireless APs all over their campus already, so proctor or >> not, > the >> nuking is the same! :) >> >> Still nothing official though! >> >> >> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) >> #4713, > JNCIE >> #153, CISSP, et al. >> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J >> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc. >> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor >> >> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits! >> >> smorris@ipexpert.com >> >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130 >> http://www.ipexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com ] On Behalf >> Of Brian Dennis >> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 6:09 PM >> To: Joseph Brunner; 'Gary Duncanson'; 'Neil Moore'; >> ccielab@groupstudy.com >> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney >> >> They will more than likely use a Faraday cage to restrict the >> wireless signals. >> >> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP) >> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com >> >> Internetwork Expert, Inc. >> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com <http://www.InternetworkExpert.com> >> Toll Free: 877-224-8987 >> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada) >> >> >> >----- Original Message ----- >> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney >> Date: Sun, September 16, 2007 14:30 >> From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com> >> >> > Gosh, >> > >> > For the proctor's sake, I hope the put the racks of the wireless >> > track >> out a >> > three-mile island, or in the new Yucca Mountain nuclear waste facility! >> > >> > Those guys are already going deaf from the buzz of the fans, now >> > they are going to be subjected to increased RF all day! >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On >> > Behalf Of Brian Dennis >> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:43 PM >> > To: Gary Duncanson; Neil Moore; ccielab@groupstudy.com >> > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney >> > >> > The next track appears to be wireless. >> > >> > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP) >> > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com >> > >> > Internetwork Expert, Inc. >> > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com >> > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 >> > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada) >> > >> > >> > >----- Original Message ----- >> > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney >> > Date: Sat, September 15, 2007 16:19 >> > From: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com <mailto:gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> > >> > >> > > Thank you Neil, >> > > >> > > Well that's good to know regarding my plans. Have you any ideas >> > > on any >> new >> > > tracks we might see in CCIE in future? >> > > >> > > Rgds >> > > Gary >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Neil Moore" < neil@droopy.com> >> > > To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> >> > > Cc: < ccielab@groupstudy.com> >> > > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:09 AM >> > > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney >> > > >> > > >> > > >I do not see it personally. There are different tracks with >> > > >different goals to master in that technology. >> > > > >> > > > Neil Moore CCIE5 #10044 (R/S,Security,SP,Voice,Storage) >> > > > >> > > > Gary Duncanson wrote: >> > > >> Hi Neil, >> > > >> >> > > >> I realise you have no crystal ball but will all these CCIE >> > > >> tracks get 'smushed' together at some point or will we see >> > > >> even more >> > designations in >> > > >> future do you think? >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Moore" >> > > >> <neil@droopy.com <mailto:neil@droopy.com> > >> > > >> To: "Scott Vermillion" <scott_ccie_list.com@it-ag.com> >> > > >> Cc: "'Narbik Kocharians'" < narbikk@gmail.com>; "'Scott Morris'" >> > > >> <smorris@ipexpert.com>; "'Guyler, Rik'" >> > > >> <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>; >> > "'darth >> > > >> router'" < darklordrouter@gmail.com <mailto:darklordrouter@gmail.com> >; <ccielab@groupstudy.com> >> > > >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:19 PM >> > > >> Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >>> For me it was just to get a complete set... when I started it >> > > >>> was >> just >> > > >>> R&amp;amp;S,Security and C/S(Now Service Provider) then >> > > >>> another came along.. >> > > >>> then another came along.. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Neil Moore CCIE5 #10044 (R/S,Security,SP,Voice,Storage) >> > > >>> >> > > >>> then this CCDE came along ... >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Scott Vermillion wrote: >> > > >>>>> If you are over 70 and still saying things like that >> > > >>>>> publicly, then you just bought some of those blue pills >> > > >>>> and >> > > >>>>> you think it works for everything >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> FOTFLMAO!! Now *that* was funny! >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> (come to think of it, anybody know a good, discrete source >> > > >>>> for >> little >> > > >>>> blue >> > > >>>> pills?) ;~) >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> -----Original Message----- >> > > >>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] >> > > >>>> On >> > Behalf Of >> > > >>>> Narbik Kocharians >> > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:45 AM >> > > >>>> To: Scott Morris >> > > >>>> Cc: Guyler, Rik; darth router; ccielab@groupstudy.com >> > > >>>> Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> I got my first two in 20 days and the third after 12 >> > > >>>> months, so it >> > was >> > > >>>> a >> > > >>>> total of 3 in 13 months but to get 4??????, who knows, it >> > > >>>> all >> depends >> > > >>>> on >> > > >>>> what you are doing and how comfortable you are with the stuff. >> When i >> > > >>>> took >> > > >>>> security CCIE, the only security appliance in the lab was a >> > > >>>> PIX. But nowadays the track has 2 ASAs, one PIX, one VPN and >> > > >>>> a 42xx box >> plus 9 >> > > >>>> routers and 2 switches, with may be 1 percent of routing >> > > >>>> &amp;amp; >> > Switching >> > > >>>> stuff >> > > >>>> (If that). When i took my security, routing and switching >> > > >>>> was a big part of the lab, what i am trying to say is that >> > > >>>> there was lots of >> > overlapping >> > > >>>> stuff >> > > >>>> between the three tracks. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Good luck mate, if you can do it, go for it. I will >> > > >>>> definitely congratulate you. Based on what you wrote, it >> > > >>>> shows lots of confidence. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> You are either under 20 or over 70 years of age. If you are >> > > >>>> under >> 20, >> > > >>>> then I >> > > >>>> can see where you are coming from. If you are over 70 and >> > > >>>> still >> > saying >> > > >>>> things like that publicly, then you just bought some of >> > > >>>> those blue pills and you think it works for everything (just >> > > >>>> kidding) >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> On 9/15/07, Scott Morris < smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote: >> > > >>>>> In my case, it was an evolution. If you had asked my back >> > > >>>>> when studying for my R&amp;amp;S if I would plan on >> > > >>>>> getting more than one, my >> response >> > would >> > > >>>>> have >> > > >>>>> been >> > > >>>>> "Are you f#*$&amp;amp;ing insane?" :) >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> But as I progressed working in different technology areas, >> > > >>>>> and >> doing >> > > >>>>> the >> > > >>>>> recert exams (also qualifying exams) it was kind of natural >> > > >>>>> to >> play >> > > >>>>> around >> > > >>>>> with it. >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Scott Morris, CCIE4 >> > > >>>>> (R&amp;amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service >> Provider) >> > #4713, >> > > >>>>> JNCIE >> > > >>>>> #153, CISSP, et al. >> > > >>>>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J >> > > >>>>> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc. >> > > >>>>> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits! >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> smorris@ipexpert.com >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >> > > >>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130 >> > > >>>>> http://www.ipexpert.com >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- >> > > >>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] >> > > >>>>> On >> Behalf >> > > >>>>> Of >> > > >>>>> Guyler, Rik >> > > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 10:44 AM >> > > >>>>> To: 'darth router'; ccielab@groupstudy.com >> > > >>>>> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Roman has 5 titles to his name but you're right dude...it's > insane >> > to >> > > >>>>> even >> > > >>>>> plan it and lay it out. I wonder if Scott, Brian, Narbik >> > > >>>>> et al >> > really >> > > >>>>> planned to get multiple titles or it just kinda evolved >> > > >>>>> that way? >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Rik >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- >> > > >>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] >> > > >>>>> On >> Behalf >> > > >>>>> Of >> > > >>>>> darth router >> > > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:55 AM >> > > >>>>> To: Ian Blaney >> > > >>>>> Cc: midvangur41@simnet.is; ccielab@groupstudy.com >> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Dang man, >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> pass the crack pipe my way. I think you are definitely >> > > >>>>> telling a >> > joke >> > > >>>>> to >> > > >>>>> get >> > > >>>>> responses. I do not think that is even possible. Maybe if >> > > >>>>> you >> are an >> > > >>>>> industry expert in all of those areas already, which is >> > > >>>>> also a > bit >> > > >>>>> improbable. You certainly could not have a day job and do >> > > >>>>> all >> that. >> > > >>>>> Anyone can brain dump the written exams. >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> DR >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> On 9/15/07, Ian Blaney <ian.blaney@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >>>>>> Jon >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> All I can say is good luck but trying not to discourage >> > > >>>>>> your enthusiasm you may fall to earth with a large BUMP!!!! >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> Concentrate on one lab at a time. See how you get on with >> > > >>>>>> the >> > R&amp;amp;S and >> > > >>>>>> take it from there. >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> Ian >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> On 9/15/07, midvangur41@simnet.is <midvangur41@simnet.is> >> > > >>>>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>>>> Hello all >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> I am new to this list. I have been studying for the CCIE >> > > >>>>>>> R%S > and >> > > >>>>>>> Voice >> > > >>>>>> for >> > > >>>>>>> the last 12 months and I am taking my 1. attempt for the >> > > >>>>>>> CCIE >> lab >> > > >>>>>>> R&amp;amp;S >> > > >>>>>> the 9. >> > > >>>>>>> of november. I feel good about my first atempt. I am >> > > >>>>>>> confident >> > about >> > > >>>>>>> internal protocols and layer 2 but I must practice Bgp >> > > >>>>>>> and >> > > >>>>> multicasting. >> > > >>>>>> I >> > > >>>>>>> have taken the following aproach to the CCIE: >> > > >>>>>>> From 2000 I have been studying for the CCIE R&amp;amp;S. >> > > >>>>>>> On >> the way >> > I have >> > > >>>>>>> taken few small Cisco exams and I have consentrated my >> > > >>>>>>> work >> > towards >> > > >>>>>>> the >> > > >>>>> exam. >> > > >>>>>> This >> > > >>>>>>> year I have taken 4 CCIE writtens R&amp;amp;S, Voice, > Service >> > Provider and >> > > >>>>>> Storage. >> > > >>>>>>> I am consentrating on taking all 4 next 2 years. After >> > > >>>>>>> that I >> will >> > > >>>>>>> take >> > > >>>>>> CCIE >> > > >>>>>>> security as my last CCIE. Here is my scedule: >> > > >>>>>>> 9. nov 2007 CCIE R&amp;amp;S Mars 2008 CCIE SP Aug >> > > >>>>>>> 2008 CCIE Voice Des 2008 CCIE Storage May 2009 CCIE >> > > >>>>>>> Security >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> Everything is possible >> > > >>>>>>> Regards >> > > >>>>>>> Jon >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > _ >> > > >>>>>>> ___ Subscription information may be found at: >> > > >>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > > >>>>>> >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > ___ >> > > >>>>>> _ Subscription information may be found at: >> > > >>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html <http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> >> > > >>>>> >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > ____ >> > > >>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >> > > >>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > ____ >> > > >>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >> > > >>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > ____ >> > > >>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >> > > >>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html <http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> -- >> > > >>>> Narbik Kocharians >> > > >>>> CCIE# 12410 (R&amp;amp;S, SP, Security) CCSI# 30832 >> > > >>>> www.Net-WorkBooks.com >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > ____ >> > > >>>> Subscription information may be found at: >> > > >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > ____ >> > > >>>> Subscription information may be found at: >> > > >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > ____ >> > > >>> Subscription information may be found at: >> > > >>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html <http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> >> > > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ >> > > ______ Subscription information may be found at: >> > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > ____ Subscription information may be found at: >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > ____ Subscription information may be found at: >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> __ Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> __ Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
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