From: Petr Lapukhov (petr@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Mon Sep 17 2007 - 13:14:33 ART
They would probably add tin foil hats (and pants :) to the list of the
wireless lab gear :)
-- Petr Lapukhov, CCIE #16379 (R&S/Security/SP) petr@internetworkexpert.comInternetwork Expert, Inc. http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
2007/9/17, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com>: > > That depends on the wattage of the antenna and how close you are to the > actual antenna. I am sure that Cisco would keep this in mind when > designing > a CCIE lab around it. If you kill your test-takers, it's not very good > PR. > :) > > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE > #153, CISSP, et al. > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc. > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits! > > smorris@ipexpert.com > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > http://www.ipexpert.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > Gary > Duncanson > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:10 AM > To: bdennis@internetworkexpert.com > Cc: Scott Morris; ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney > > Are there known health risk's with wireless? A boss at a previous wasn't > keen on it as he was of the opinion it fries people's brains. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Dennis" <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> > To: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>; "'Joseph Brunner'" > <joe@affirmedsystems.com>; "'Gary Duncanson'" > <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>; "'Neil Moore'" <neil@droopy.com>; > <ccielab@groupstudy.com> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 5:23 AM > Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney > > > > That's cool. The wireless labs for Cisco that I saw used the Faraday > > cages but they weren't cheap from my understanding. > > > > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP) > > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc. > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 > > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada) > > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney > > Date: Sun, September 16, 2007 19:57 > > From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com> > > > >> That would be an expensive and irritating way to make/take an exam! > > There's > >> actually some paint that will absorb RF that I had discusseed with > >> and passed along to some folks... That (IMHO) is the easier way to > >> do things, but at the same time, I'm thinking only one per day! (per > >> location > >> enabled) > >> > >> Cisco has wireless APs all over their campus already, so proctor or > >> not, > > the > >> nuking is the same! :) > >> > >> Still nothing official though! > >> > >> > >> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) > >> #4713, > > JNCIE > >> #153, CISSP, et al. > >> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J > >> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc. > >> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor > >> > >> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits! > >> > >> smorris@ipexpert.com > >> > >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > >> Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > >> http://www.ipexpert.com > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf > >> Of Brian Dennis > >> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 6:09 PM > >> To: Joseph Brunner; 'Gary Duncanson'; 'Neil Moore'; > >> ccielab@groupstudy.com > >> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney > >> > >> They will more than likely use a Faraday cage to restrict the > >> wireless signals. > >> > >> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP) > >> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com > >> > >> Internetwork Expert, Inc. > >> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com > >> Toll Free: 877-224-8987 > >> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada) > >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney > >> Date: Sun, September 16, 2007 14:30 > >> From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com> > >> > >> > Gosh, > >> > > >> > For the proctor's sake, I hope the put the racks of the wireless > >> > track > >> out a > >> > three-mile island, or in the new Yucca Mountain nuclear waste > facility! > >> > > >> > Those guys are already going deaf from the buzz of the fans, now > >> > they are going to be subjected to increased RF all day! > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On > >> > Behalf Of Brian Dennis > >> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:43 PM > >> > To: Gary Duncanson; Neil Moore; ccielab@groupstudy.com > >> > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney > >> > > >> > The next track appears to be wireless. > >> > > >> > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP) > >> > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com > >> > > >> > Internetwork Expert, Inc. > >> > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com > >> > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 > >> > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada) > >> > > >> > > >> > >----- Original Message ----- > >> > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney > >> > Date: Sat, September 15, 2007 16:19 > >> > From: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> > >> > > >> > > Thank you Neil, > >> > > > >> > > Well that's good to know regarding my plans. Have you any ideas > >> > > on any > >> new > >> > > tracks we might see in CCIE in future? > >> > > > >> > > Rgds > >> > > Gary > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "Neil Moore" <neil@droopy.com> > >> > > To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> > >> > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com> > >> > > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:09 AM > >> > > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >I do not see it personally. There are different tracks with > >> > > >different goals to master in that technology. > >> > > > > >> > > > Neil Moore CCIE5 #10044 (R/S,Security,SP,Voice,Storage) > >> > > > > >> > > > Gary Duncanson wrote: > >> > > >> Hi Neil, > >> > > >> > >> > > >> I realise you have no crystal ball but will all these CCIE > >> > > >> tracks get 'smushed' together at some point or will we see > >> > > >> even more > >> > designations in > >> > > >> future do you think? > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Moore" > >> > > >> <neil@droopy.com> > >> > > >> To: "Scott Vermillion" <scott_ccie_list.com@it-ag.com> > >> > > >> Cc: "'Narbik Kocharians'" <narbikk@gmail.com>; "'Scott Morris'" > >> > > >> <smorris@ipexpert.com>; "'Guyler, Rik'" > >> > > >> <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>; > >> > "'darth > >> > > >> router'" <darklordrouter@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com> > >> > > >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:19 PM > >> > > >> Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> For me it was just to get a complete set... when I started it > >> > > >>> was > >> just > >> > > >>> R&amp;amp;S,Security and C/S(Now Service Provider) then > >> > > >>> another came along.. > >> > > >>> then another came along.. > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> Neil Moore CCIE5 #10044 (R/S,Security,SP,Voice,Storage) > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> then this CCDE came along ... > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> Scott Vermillion wrote: > >> > > >>>>> If you are over 70 and still saying things like that > >> > > >>>>> publicly, then you just bought some of those blue pills > >> > > >>>> and > >> > > >>>>> you think it works for everything > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> FOTFLMAO!! Now *that* was funny! > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> (come to think of it, anybody know a good, discrete source > >> > > >>>> for > >> little > >> > > >>>> blue > >> > > >>>> pills?) ;~) > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >> > > >>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] > >> > > >>>> On > >> > Behalf Of > >> > > >>>> Narbik Kocharians > >> > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:45 AM > >> > > >>>> To: Scott Morris > >> > > >>>> Cc: Guyler, Rik; darth router; ccielab@groupstudy.com > >> > > >>>> Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> I got my first two in 20 days and the third after 12 > >> > > >>>> months, so it > >> > was > >> > > >>>> a > >> > > >>>> total of 3 in 13 months but to get 4??????, who knows, it > >> > > >>>> all > >> depends > >> > > >>>> on > >> > > >>>> what you are doing and how comfortable you are with the stuff. > >> When i > >> > > >>>> took > >> > > >>>> security CCIE, the only security appliance in the lab was a > >> > > >>>> PIX. But nowadays the track has 2 ASAs, one PIX, one VPN and > >> > > >>>> a 42xx box > >> plus 9 > >> > > >>>> routers and 2 switches, with may be 1 percent of routing > >> > > >>>> &amp;amp; > >> > Switching > >> > > >>>> stuff > >> > > >>>> (If that). When i took my security, routing and switching > >> > > >>>> was a big part of the lab, what i am trying to say is that > >> > > >>>> there was lots of > >> > overlapping > >> > > >>>> stuff > >> > > >>>> between the three tracks. > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> Good luck mate, if you can do it, go for it. I will > >> > > >>>> definitely congratulate you. Based on what you wrote, it > >> > > >>>> shows lots of confidence. > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> You are either under 20 or over 70 years of age. If you are > >> > > >>>> under > >> 20, > >> > > >>>> then I > >> > > >>>> can see where you are coming from. If you are over 70 and > >> > > >>>> still > >> > saying > >> > > >>>> things like that publicly, then you just bought some of > >> > > >>>> those blue pills and you think it works for everything (just > >> > > >>>> kidding) > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> On 9/15/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote: > >> > > >>>>> In my case, it was an evolution. If you had asked my back > >> > > >>>>> when studying for my R&amp;amp;S if I would plan on > >> > > >>>>> getting more than one, my > >> response > >> > would > >> > > >>>>> have > >> > > >>>>> been > >> > > >>>>> "Are you f#*$&amp;amp;ing insane?" :) > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> But as I progressed working in different technology areas, > >> > > >>>>> and > >> doing > >> > > >>>>> the > >> > > >>>>> recert exams (also qualifying exams) it was kind of natural > >> > > >>>>> to > >> play > >> > > >>>>> around > >> > > >>>>> with it. > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> Scott Morris, CCIE4 > >> > > >>>>> (R&amp;amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service > >> Provider) > >> > #4713, > >> > > >>>>> JNCIE > >> > > >>>>> #153, CISSP, et al. > >> > > >>>>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J > >> > > >>>>> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc. > >> > > >>>>> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits! > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> smorris@ipexpert.com > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > >> > > >>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > >> > > >>>>> http://www.ipexpert.com > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> > > >>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] > >> > > >>>>> On > >> Behalf > >> > > >>>>> Of > >> > > >>>>> Guyler, Rik > >> > > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 10:44 AM > >> > > >>>>> To: 'darth router'; ccielab@groupstudy.com > >> > > >>>>> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> Roman has 5 titles to his name but you're right dude...it's > > insane > >> > to > >> > > >>>>> even > >> > > >>>>> plan it and lay it out. I wonder if Scott, Brian, Narbik > >> > > >>>>> et al > >> > really > >> > > >>>>> planned to get multiple titles or it just kinda evolved > >> > > >>>>> that way? > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> Rik > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> > > >>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] > >> > > >>>>> On > >> Behalf > >> > > >>>>> Of > >> > > >>>>> darth router > >> > > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:55 AM > >> > > >>>>> To: Ian Blaney > >> > > >>>>> Cc: midvangur41@simnet.is; ccielab@groupstudy.com > >> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> Dang man, > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> pass the crack pipe my way. I think you are definitely > >> > > >>>>> telling a > >> > joke > >> > > >>>>> to > >> > > >>>>> get > >> > > >>>>> responses. I do not think that is even possible. Maybe if > >> > > >>>>> you > >> are an > >> > > >>>>> industry expert in all of those areas already, which is > >> > > >>>>> also a > > bit > >> > > >>>>> improbable. You certainly could not have a day job and do > >> > > >>>>> all > >> that. > >> > > >>>>> Anyone can brain dump the written exams. > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> DR > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> On 9/15/07, Ian Blaney <ian.blaney@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >>>>>> Jon > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> All I can say is good luck but trying not to discourage > >> > > >>>>>> your enthusiasm you may fall to earth with a large BUMP!!!! > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> Concentrate on one lab at a time. See how you get on with > >> > > >>>>>> the > >> > R&amp;amp;S and > >> > > >>>>>> take it from there. > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> Ian > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> On 9/15/07, midvangur41@simnet.is <midvangur41@simnet.is> > >> > > >>>>>> wrote: > >> > > >>>>>>> Hello all > >> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>> I am new to this list. I have been studying for the CCIE > >> > > >>>>>>> R%S > > and > >> > > >>>>>>> Voice > >> > > >>>>>> for > >> > > >>>>>>> the last 12 months and I am taking my 1. attempt for the > >> > > >>>>>>> CCIE > >> lab > >> > > >>>>>>> R&amp;amp;S > >> > > >>>>>> the 9. > >> > > >>>>>>> of november. I feel good about my first atempt. I am > >> > > >>>>>>> confident > >> > about > >> > > >>>>>>> internal protocols and layer 2 but I must practice Bgp > >> > > >>>>>>> and > >> > > >>>>> multicasting. > >> > > >>>>>> I > >> > > >>>>>>> have taken the following aproach to the CCIE: > >> > > >>>>>>> From 2000 I have been studying for the CCIE > R&amp;amp;S. > >> > > >>>>>>> On > >> the way > >> > I have > >> > > >>>>>>> taken few small Cisco exams and I have consentrated my > >> > > >>>>>>> work > >> > towards > >> > > >>>>>>> the > >> > > >>>>> exam. > >> > > >>>>>> This > >> > > >>>>>>> year I have taken 4 CCIE writtens R&amp;amp;S, Voice, > > Service > >> > Provider and > >> > > >>>>>> Storage. > >> > > >>>>>>> I am consentrating on taking all 4 next 2 years. After > >> > > >>>>>>> that I > >> will > >> > > >>>>>>> take > >> > > >>>>>> CCIE > >> > > >>>>>>> security as my last CCIE. Here is my scedule: > >> > > >>>>>>> 9. nov 2007 CCIE R&amp;amp;S Mars 2008 CCIE SP Aug > >> > > >>>>>>> 2008 CCIE Voice Des 2008 CCIE Storage May 2009 CCIE > >> > > >>>>>>> Security > >> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>> Everything is possible > >> > > >>>>>>> Regards > >> > > >>>>>>> Jon > >> > > >>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>>> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > _ > >> > > >>>>>>> ___ Subscription information may be found at: > >> > > >>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > ___ > >> > > >>>>>> _ Subscription information may be found at: > >> > > >>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > >> > > >>>>> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > ____ > >> > > >>>>> Subscription information may be found at: > >> > > >>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > ____ > >> > > >>>>> Subscription information may be found at: > >> > > >>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > ____ > >> > > >>>>> Subscription information may be found at: > >> > > >>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> -- > >> > > >>>> Narbik Kocharians > >> > > >>>> CCIE# 12410 (R&amp;amp;S, SP, Security) CCSI# 30832 > >> > > >>>> www.Net-WorkBooks.com > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > ____ > >> > > >>>> Subscription information may be found at: > >> > > >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > ____ > >> > > >>>> Subscription information may be found at: > >> > > >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > ____ > >> > > >>> Subscription information may be found at: > >> > > >>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > >> > > > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > > ______ Subscription information may be found at: > >> > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > >> > > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > ____ Subscription information may be found at: > >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > >> > > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > ____ Subscription information may be found at: > >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > >> > >> _____________________________________________________________________ > >> __ Subscription information may be found at: > >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > >> > >> _____________________________________________________________________ > >> __ Subscription information may be found at: > >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
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