From: Brian Dennis (bdennis@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Mon Sep 17 2007 - 01:23:14 ART
That's cool. The wireless labs for Cisco that I saw used the Faraday
cages but they weren't cheap from my understanding.
Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
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>----- Original Message -----
Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney
Date: Sun, September 16, 2007 19:57
From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> That would be an expensive and irritating way to make/take an exam!
There's
> actually some paint that will absorb RF that I had discusseed with and
> passed along to some folks... That (IMHO) is the easier way to do things,
> but at the same time, I'm thinking only one per day! (per location enabled)
>
> Cisco has wireless APs all over their campus already, so proctor or not,
the
> nuking is the same! :)
>
> Still nothing official though!
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Brian Dennis
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 6:09 PM
> To: Joseph Brunner; 'Gary Duncanson'; 'Neil Moore'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney
>
> They will more than likely use a Faraday cage to restrict the wireless
> signals.
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
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> >----- Original Message -----
> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney
> Date: Sun, September 16, 2007 14:30
> From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
>
> > Gosh,
> >
> > For the proctor's sake, I hope the put the racks of the wireless track
> out a
> > three-mile island, or in the new Yucca Mountain nuclear waste facility!
> >
> > Those guys are already going deaf from the buzz of the fans, now they
> > are going to be subjected to increased RF all day!
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of Brian Dennis
> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:43 PM
> > To: Gary Duncanson; Neil Moore; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
> >
> > The next track appears to be wireless.
> >
> > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> >
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> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
> > Date: Sat, September 15, 2007 16:19
> > From: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
> >
> > > Thank you Neil,
> > >
> > > Well that's good to know regarding my plans. Have you any ideas on
> > > any
> new
> > > tracks we might see in CCIE in future?
> > >
> > > Rgds
> > > Gary
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Neil Moore" <neil@droopy.com>
> > > To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
> > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:09 AM
> > > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
> > >
> > >
> > > >I do not see it personally. There are different tracks with
> > > >different goals to master in that technology.
> > > >
> > > > Neil Moore CCIE5 #10044 (R/S,Security,SP,Voice,Storage)
> > > >
> > > > Gary Duncanson wrote:
> > > >> Hi Neil,
> > > >>
> > > >> I realise you have no crystal ball but will all these CCIE tracks
> > > >> get 'smushed' together at some point or will we see even more
> > designations in
> > > >> future do you think?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Moore" <neil@droopy.com>
> > > >> To: "Scott Vermillion" <scott_ccie_list.com@it-ag.com>
> > > >> Cc: "'Narbik Kocharians'" <narbikk@gmail.com>; "'Scott Morris'"
> > > >> <smorris@ipexpert.com>; "'Guyler, Rik'" <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>;
> > "'darth
> > > >> router'" <darklordrouter@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:19 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> For me it was just to get a complete set... when I started it
> > > >>> was
> just
> > > >>> R&amp;amp;S,Security and C/S(Now Service Provider) then another
> > > >>> came along..
> > > >>> then another came along..
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Neil Moore CCIE5 #10044 (R/S,Security,SP,Voice,Storage)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> then this CCDE came along ...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Scott Vermillion wrote:
> > > >>>>> If you are over 70 and still saying things like that publicly,
> > > >>>>> then you just bought some of those blue pills
> > > >>>> and
> > > >>>>> you think it works for everything
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> FOTFLMAO!! Now *that* was funny!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> (come to think of it, anybody know a good, discrete source for
> little
> > > >>>> blue
> > > >>>> pills?) ;~)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > >>>> Narbik Kocharians
> > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:45 AM
> > > >>>> To: Scott Morris
> > > >>>> Cc: Guyler, Rik; darth router; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I got my first two in 20 days and the third after 12 months,
> > > >>>> so it
> > was
> > > >>>> a
> > > >>>> total of 3 in 13 months but to get 4??????, who knows, it all
> depends
> > > >>>> on
> > > >>>> what you are doing and how comfortable you are with the stuff.
> When i
> > > >>>> took
> > > >>>> security CCIE, the only security appliance in the lab was a
> > > >>>> PIX. But nowadays the track has 2 ASAs, one PIX, one VPN and a
> > > >>>> 42xx box
> plus 9
> > > >>>> routers and 2 switches, with may be 1 percent of routing
> > > >>>> &amp;amp;
> > Switching
> > > >>>> stuff
> > > >>>> (If that). When i took my security, routing and switching was a
> > > >>>> big part of the lab, what i am trying to say is that there was
> > > >>>> lots of
> > overlapping
> > > >>>> stuff
> > > >>>> between the three tracks.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Good luck mate, if you can do it, go for it. I will definitely
> > > >>>> congratulate you. Based on what you wrote, it shows lots of
> > > >>>> confidence.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> You are either under 20 or over 70 years of age. If you are
> > > >>>> under
> 20,
> > > >>>> then I
> > > >>>> can see where you are coming from. If you are over 70 and still
> > saying
> > > >>>> things like that publicly, then you just bought some of those
> > > >>>> blue pills and you think it works for everything (just
> > > >>>> kidding)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 9/15/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>> In my case, it was an evolution. If you had asked my back
> > > >>>>> when studying for my R&amp;amp;S if I would plan on getting
> > > >>>>> more than one, my
> response
> > would
> > > >>>>> have
> > > >>>>> been
> > > >>>>> "Are you f#*$&amp;amp;ing insane?" :)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> But as I progressed working in different technology areas, and
> doing
> > > >>>>> the
> > > >>>>> recert exams (also qualifying exams) it was kind of natural to
> play
> > > >>>>> around
> > > >>>>> with it.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&amp;amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> Provider)
> > #4713,
> > > >>>>> JNCIE
> > > >>>>> #153, CISSP, et al.
> > > >>>>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > > >>>>> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > >>>>> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> smorris@ipexpert.com
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > >>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > > >>>>> http://www.ipexpert.com
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
> > > >>>>> Of
> > > >>>>> Guyler, Rik
> > > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 10:44 AM
> > > >>>>> To: 'darth router'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >>>>> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Roman has 5 titles to his name but you're right dude...it's
insane
> > to
> > > >>>>> even
> > > >>>>> plan it and lay it out. I wonder if Scott, Brian, Narbik et al
> > really
> > > >>>>> planned to get multiple titles or it just kinda evolved that way?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Rik
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
> > > >>>>> Of
> > > >>>>> darth router
> > > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:55 AM
> > > >>>>> To: Ian Blaney
> > > >>>>> Cc: midvangur41@simnet.is; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Dang man,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> pass the crack pipe my way. I think you are definitely telling a
> > joke
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>> get
> > > >>>>> responses. I do not think that is even possible. Maybe if you
> are an
> > > >>>>> industry expert in all of those areas already, which is also a
bit
> > > >>>>> improbable. You certainly could not have a day job and do all
> that.
> > > >>>>> Anyone can brain dump the written exams.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> DR
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On 9/15/07, Ian Blaney <ian.blaney@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>> Jon
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> All I can say is good luck but trying not to discourage your
> > > >>>>>> enthusiasm you may fall to earth with a large BUMP!!!!
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Concentrate on one lab at a time. See how you get on with the
> > R&amp;amp;S and
> > > >>>>>> take it from there.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Ian
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 9/15/07, midvangur41@simnet.is <midvangur41@simnet.is> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> Hello all
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I am new to this list. I have been studying for the CCIE R%S
and
> > > >>>>>>> Voice
> > > >>>>>> for
> > > >>>>>>> the last 12 months and I am taking my 1. attempt for the CCIE
> lab
> > > >>>>>>> R&amp;amp;S
> > > >>>>>> the 9.
> > > >>>>>>> of november. I feel good about my first atempt. I am confident
> > about
> > > >>>>>>> internal protocols and layer 2 but I must practice Bgp and
> > > >>>>> multicasting.
> > > >>>>>> I
> > > >>>>>>> have taken the following aproach to the CCIE:
> > > >>>>>>> From 2000 I have been studying for the CCIE R&amp;amp;S. On
> the way
> > I have
> > > >>>>>>> taken few small Cisco exams and I have consentrated my work
> > towards
> > > >>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>> exam.
> > > >>>>>> This
> > > >>>>>>> year I have taken 4 CCIE writtens R&amp;amp;S, Voice,
Service
> > Provider and
> > > >>>>>> Storage.
> > > >>>>>>> I am consentrating on taking all 4 next 2 years. After that I
> will
> > > >>>>>>> take
> > > >>>>>> CCIE
> > > >>>>>>> security as my last CCIE. Here is my scedule:
> > > >>>>>>> 9. nov 2007 CCIE R&amp;amp;S
> > > >>>>>>> Mars 2008 CCIE SP
> > > >>>>>>> Aug 2008 CCIE Voice
> > > >>>>>>> Des 2008 CCIE Storage
> > > >>>>>>> May 2009 CCIE Security
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Everything is possible
> > > >>>>>>> Regards
> > > >>>>>>> Jon
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
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