From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Mon Sep 17 2007 - 08:09:40 ART
Are there known health risk's with wireless? A boss at a previous wasn't
keen on it as he was of the opinion it fries people's brains.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Dennis" <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
To: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>; "'Joseph Brunner'"
<joe@affirmedsystems.com>; "'Gary Duncanson'"
<gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>; "'Neil Moore'" <neil@droopy.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 5:23 AM
Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney
> That's cool. The wireless labs for Cisco that I saw used the Faraday
> cages but they weren't cheap from my understanding.
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
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>>----- Original Message -----
> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney
> Date: Sun, September 16, 2007 19:57
> From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
>
>> That would be an expensive and irritating way to make/take an exam!
> There's
>> actually some paint that will absorb RF that I had discusseed with and
>> passed along to some folks... That (IMHO) is the easier way to do
>> things,
>> but at the same time, I'm thinking only one per day! (per location
>> enabled)
>>
>> Cisco has wireless APs all over their campus already, so proctor or not,
> the
>> nuking is the same! :)
>>
>> Still nothing official though!
>>
>>
>> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE
>> #153, CISSP, et al.
>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
>> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
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>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Brian Dennis
>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 6:09 PM
>> To: Joseph Brunner; 'Gary Duncanson'; 'Neil Moore';
>> ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney
>>
>> They will more than likely use a Faraday cage to restrict the wireless
>> signals.
>>
>> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
>> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>>
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>> >----- Original Message -----
>> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney
>> Date: Sun, September 16, 2007 14:30
>> From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
>>
>> > Gosh,
>> >
>> > For the proctor's sake, I hope the put the racks of the wireless track
>> out a
>> > three-mile island, or in the new Yucca Mountain nuclear waste facility!
>> >
>> > Those guys are already going deaf from the buzz of the fans, now they
>> > are going to be subjected to increased RF all day!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> > Of Brian Dennis
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:43 PM
>> > To: Gary Duncanson; Neil Moore; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
>> >
>> > The next track appears to be wireless.
>> >
>> > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
>> > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
>> > Date: Sat, September 15, 2007 16:19
>> > From: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
>> >
>> > > Thank you Neil,
>> > >
>> > > Well that's good to know regarding my plans. Have you any ideas on
>> > > any
>> new
>> > > tracks we might see in CCIE in future?
>> > >
>> > > Rgds
>> > > Gary
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Neil Moore" <neil@droopy.com>
>> > > To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>
>> > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> > > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:09 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >I do not see it personally. There are different tracks with
>> > > >different goals to master in that technology.
>> > > >
>> > > > Neil Moore CCIE5 #10044 (R/S,Security,SP,Voice,Storage)
>> > > >
>> > > > Gary Duncanson wrote:
>> > > >> Hi Neil,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I realise you have no crystal ball but will all these CCIE tracks
>> > > >> get 'smushed' together at some point or will we see even more
>> > designations in
>> > > >> future do you think?
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Moore" <neil@droopy.com>
>> > > >> To: "Scott Vermillion" <scott_ccie_list.com@it-ag.com>
>> > > >> Cc: "'Narbik Kocharians'" <narbikk@gmail.com>; "'Scott Morris'"
>> > > >> <smorris@ipexpert.com>; "'Guyler, Rik'" <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>;
>> > "'darth
>> > > >> router'" <darklordrouter@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> > > >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:19 PM
>> > > >> Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> For me it was just to get a complete set... when I started it
>> > > >>> was
>> just
>> > > >>> R&amp;amp;S,Security and C/S(Now Service Provider) then
>> > > >>> another
>> > > >>> came along..
>> > > >>> then another came along..
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Neil Moore CCIE5 #10044 (R/S,Security,SP,Voice,Storage)
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> then this CCDE came along ...
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Scott Vermillion wrote:
>> > > >>>>> If you are over 70 and still saying things like that publicly,
>> > > >>>>> then you just bought some of those blue pills
>> > > >>>> and
>> > > >>>>> you think it works for everything
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> FOTFLMAO!! Now *that* was funny!
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> (come to think of it, anybody know a good, discrete source for
>> little
>> > > >>>> blue
>> > > >>>> pills?) ;~)
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>> > Behalf Of
>> > > >>>> Narbik Kocharians
>> > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:45 AM
>> > > >>>> To: Scott Morris
>> > > >>>> Cc: Guyler, Rik; darth router; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > >>>> Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> I got my first two in 20 days and the third after 12 months,
>> > > >>>> so it
>> > was
>> > > >>>> a
>> > > >>>> total of 3 in 13 months but to get 4??????, who knows, it all
>> depends
>> > > >>>> on
>> > > >>>> what you are doing and how comfortable you are with the stuff.
>> When i
>> > > >>>> took
>> > > >>>> security CCIE, the only security appliance in the lab was a
>> > > >>>> PIX. But nowadays the track has 2 ASAs, one PIX, one VPN and a
>> > > >>>> 42xx box
>> plus 9
>> > > >>>> routers and 2 switches, with may be 1 percent of routing
>> > > >>>> &amp;amp;
>> > Switching
>> > > >>>> stuff
>> > > >>>> (If that). When i took my security, routing and switching was a
>> > > >>>> big part of the lab, what i am trying to say is that there was
>> > > >>>> lots of
>> > overlapping
>> > > >>>> stuff
>> > > >>>> between the three tracks.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Good luck mate, if you can do it, go for it. I will definitely
>> > > >>>> congratulate you. Based on what you wrote, it shows lots of
>> > > >>>> confidence.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> You are either under 20 or over 70 years of age. If you are
>> > > >>>> under
>> 20,
>> > > >>>> then I
>> > > >>>> can see where you are coming from. If you are over 70 and still
>> > saying
>> > > >>>> things like that publicly, then you just bought some of those
>> > > >>>> blue pills and you think it works for everything (just
>> > > >>>> kidding)
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> On 9/15/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
>> > > >>>>> In my case, it was an evolution. If you had asked my back
>> > > >>>>> when studying for my R&amp;amp;S if I would plan on getting
>> > > >>>>> more than one, my
>> response
>> > would
>> > > >>>>> have
>> > > >>>>> been
>> > > >>>>> "Are you f#*$&amp;amp;ing insane?" :)
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> But as I progressed working in different technology areas, and
>> doing
>> > > >>>>> the
>> > > >>>>> recert exams (also qualifying exams) it was kind of natural to
>> play
>> > > >>>>> around
>> > > >>>>> with it.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&amp;amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
>> Provider)
>> > #4713,
>> > > >>>>> JNCIE
>> > > >>>>> #153, CISSP, et al.
>> > > >>>>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
>> > > >>>>> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
>> > > >>>>> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> smorris@ipexpert.com
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> > > >>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>> > > >>>>> http://www.ipexpert.com
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>> Behalf
>> > > >>>>> Of
>> > > >>>>> Guyler, Rik
>> > > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 10:44 AM
>> > > >>>>> To: 'darth router'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > >>>>> Subject: RE: My CCIE jurney
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Roman has 5 titles to his name but you're right dude...it's
> insane
>> > to
>> > > >>>>> even
>> > > >>>>> plan it and lay it out. I wonder if Scott, Brian, Narbik et al
>> > really
>> > > >>>>> planned to get multiple titles or it just kinda evolved that
>> > > >>>>> way?
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Rik
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>> Behalf
>> > > >>>>> Of
>> > > >>>>> darth router
>> > > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:55 AM
>> > > >>>>> To: Ian Blaney
>> > > >>>>> Cc: midvangur41@simnet.is; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: My CCIE jurney
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Dang man,
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> pass the crack pipe my way. I think you are definitely telling
>> > > >>>>> a
>> > joke
>> > > >>>>> to
>> > > >>>>> get
>> > > >>>>> responses. I do not think that is even possible. Maybe if you
>> are an
>> > > >>>>> industry expert in all of those areas already, which is also a
> bit
>> > > >>>>> improbable. You certainly could not have a day job and do all
>> that.
>> > > >>>>> Anyone can brain dump the written exams.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> DR
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> On 9/15/07, Ian Blaney <ian.blaney@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>> Jon
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> All I can say is good luck but trying not to discourage your
>> > > >>>>>> enthusiasm you may fall to earth with a large BUMP!!!!
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Concentrate on one lab at a time. See how you get on with the
>> > R&amp;amp;S and
>> > > >>>>>> take it from there.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> Ian
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> On 9/15/07, midvangur41@simnet.is <midvangur41@simnet.is>
>> > > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>> Hello all
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> I am new to this list. I have been studying for the CCIE R%S
> and
>> > > >>>>>>> Voice
>> > > >>>>>> for
>> > > >>>>>>> the last 12 months and I am taking my 1. attempt for the CCIE
>> lab
>> > > >>>>>>> R&amp;amp;S
>> > > >>>>>> the 9.
>> > > >>>>>>> of november. I feel good about my first atempt. I am
>> > > >>>>>>> confident
>> > about
>> > > >>>>>>> internal protocols and layer 2 but I must practice Bgp and
>> > > >>>>> multicasting.
>> > > >>>>>> I
>> > > >>>>>>> have taken the following aproach to the CCIE:
>> > > >>>>>>> From 2000 I have been studying for the CCIE R&amp;amp;S.
>> > > >>>>>>> On
>> the way
>> > I have
>> > > >>>>>>> taken few small Cisco exams and I have consentrated my work
>> > towards
>> > > >>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>> exam.
>> > > >>>>>> This
>> > > >>>>>>> year I have taken 4 CCIE writtens R&amp;amp;S, Voice,
> Service
>> > Provider and
>> > > >>>>>> Storage.
>> > > >>>>>>> I am consentrating on taking all 4 next 2 years. After that I
>> will
>> > > >>>>>>> take
>> > > >>>>>> CCIE
>> > > >>>>>>> security as my last CCIE. Here is my scedule:
>> > > >>>>>>> 9. nov 2007 CCIE R&amp;amp;S
>> > > >>>>>>> Mars 2008 CCIE SP
>> > > >>>>>>> Aug 2008 CCIE Voice
>> > > >>>>>>> Des 2008 CCIE Storage
>> > > >>>>>>> May 2009 CCIE Security
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Everything is possible
>> > > >>>>>>> Regards
>> > > >>>>>>> Jon
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
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